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    Default Re: Anderson Varejao Trade Ideas

    What do you guys think of a trade with the Celtics: Varejao/Casspi for Green/Sullinger/Lee? Upgrade at small forward plus some much needed depth.

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    Default Re: 5 scenario trades revolving around Andy

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich View Post
    Some of those are just totally unrealistic. Charlotte and LA would never make those trades. Then you've got the Atlanta trade which I'm stuggling to figure out why we'd do that. I'm not even sure Josh Smith is a better player than Varejao right now. Forget about the fact that he has no upside left and in no way fills any need.
    Josh Smith is hands down the better player. We need that guy who can play the 3 but can also slide down to the 4 if needed.

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    Default Re: Anderson Varejao Trade Ideas

    Its almost like the BR swiped those trade ideas from some of the bad posts in the RCF trade threads...

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    Default Re: 5 scenario trades revolving around Andy

    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    Take this bleacher report crap and stick it up your poop hole.
    Sorry, Coach.

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    Default Re: Anderson Varejao Trade Ideas

    Atlanta is rebuilding. There is no way they are going to trade Smith for Varejao and Gibson. Varejao is on the wrong side of 30 for a rebuild (especially a rebuild that is just starting), Gibson is only good for his expiring... but why use Gibson as an expiring when you have Josh Smith expiring? The other question is that Varejao and Gibson make 13 million (roughly the amount Josh Smith is owed), Varejao is also owed another 9+ million next year. Why would Atlanta take on another 10 million in salary?

    It also doesn't make sense for the Cavs. Varejao is much more valuable than this trade... not because he is leaps and bounds better than Smith, but because you could get Josh Smith for much much cheaper. An expiring (like boobie or walton to make salaries work) and some of the plethora of draft picks we have would be enough to pull in Josh Smith.

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    Default Re: Anderson Varejao Trade Ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by CruiserNFL View Post
    Hope OKC would look at the Nets game tape, because if they look at the Mavs game they might see:

    Andy v Mavs 38 minutes, 4 points, 7 boards. That line makes Thabeet look good.
    Pretty sure that's why they invented per-game averages. Looking at any individual game will only tell you about one night in a player's career. Looking at their averages for the season (and career) paints a much more accurate picture of what you're going to get from that player.

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    Default Re: Anderson Varejao Trade Ideas

    Before a trade is mentioned, please look at player contracts. 85% of trades on this page will not fiscally work.

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    Default Re: Anderson Varejao Trade Ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by DanRosenberg View Post
    Before a trade is mentioned, please look at player contracts. 85% of trades on this page will not fiscally work.
    Perhaps as is, most trades in this thread won't work, but I think it can be assumed that people are also counting on fillers making it work.

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    Default Re: Anderson Varejao Trade Ideas

    All from http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2012/11/k...s-varejao.html

    Anderson Varejao isn't likely to be moved, but if the Cavaliers were to consider a deal, it would have to include Luke Walton and his $6.09MM salary.

    Similarly, if the Kings explored a Tyreke Evans trade, Sacramento would want to include either John Salmons or Francisco Garcia.

    The Timberwolves would be open to moving Derrick Williams if they could land a good veteran player for him.

    Kyler also names Hedo Turkoglu, Tayshaun Prince, Tyrus Thomas, and Wesley Johnson as trade candidates, though all those players could be tough to move due to their salaries.

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    Default Re: Anderson Varejao Trade Ideas

    Kyrie's out, better trade Andy now

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    Default Re: Anderson Varejao Trade Ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by DanRosenberg View Post
    Before a trade is mentioned, please look at player contracts. 85% of trades on this page will not fiscally work.
    Not sure what numbers you are referencing, but the Cavs can absorb 10.2063 million dollars. So the Cavs (financially) would only need to part with Boobie if they wanted to trade for Josh Smith.

    This is because Baron Davis' amnesty contract counts towards the cap floor, but not the cap ceiling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cafemerald View Post
    Not sure what numbers you are referencing, but the Cavs can absorb 10.2063 million dollars. So the Cavs (financially) would only need to part with Boobie if they wanted to trade for Josh Smith.

    This is because Baron Davis' amnesty contract counts towards the cap floor, but not the cap ceiling.
    More often than not, the other team would not be able to afford the trade. Most teams don't have the cap space like we do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleDrew View Post
    All from http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2012/11/k...s-varejao.html

    Anderson Varejao isn't likely to be moved, but if the Cavaliers were to consider a deal, it would have to include Luke Walton and his $6.09MM salary.

    Similarly, if the Kings explored a Tyreke Evans trade, Sacramento would want to include either John Salmons or Francisco Garcia.

    The Timberwolves would be open to moving Derrick Williams if they could land a good veteran player for him.

    Kyler also names Hedo Turkoglu, Tayshaun Prince, Tyrus Thomas, and Wesley Johnson as trade candidates, though all those players could be tough to move due to their salaries.
    While there's no urgency in Toronto to move Jose Calderon, the Raptors are expected to explore deals. Kyler suggests that small forwards like Omri Casspi and Wilson Chandler are worth keeping an eye on as potential Raptors targets, adding that Chandler isn't in the Nuggets' long-term plan.

    I, uh, I mean... is this a typo? If the Raptors want Omri Casspi, by God, let's deal.

    Not sure why Luke Walton would hold up a Varejao deal, actually. I cant imagine we would walk away from a Lottery Pick and maybe a young player because said team doesnt want his expiring corpse. Far from a deal-breaker, right?

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    Default Re: Anderson Varejao Trade Ideas

    Casspi would fit into torontos euro style ball quite well

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    Default Re: Anderson Varejao Trade Ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by jlegg21 View Post
    While there's no urgency in Toronto to move Jose Calderon, the Raptors are expected to explore deals. Kyler suggests that small forwards like Omri Casspi and Wilson Chandler are worth keeping an eye on as potential Raptors targets, adding that Chandler isn't in the Nuggets' long-term plan.

    I, uh, I mean... is this a typo? If the Raptors want Omri Casspi, by God, let's deal.

    Not sure why Luke Walton would hold up a Varejao deal, actually. I cant imagine we would walk away from a Lottery Pick and maybe a young player because said team doesnt want his expiring corpse. Far from a deal-breaker, right?
    Casspi and Ed Davis would work money wise, but I am not so sure they would be that dumb. To be honest I would be all for sending Casspi along with Walton for Landry Fields (I know he's struggling) and Ed Davis. Only way that gets done is because we take on Fields' contract.

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