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    De-fault, the two sweetest words in the english language.

    Glad you looked that up for me. That's what I was referencing.

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    Bummer we won't get to see more of Drummond for awhile. Like Scholar, I suspect they won't hesitate to shut him down this year. No need to rush him back. He's had a fantastic start to his career, though. Hopefully this doesn't linger.

    Considering that the Cavs are considering picking up Oden and considering Varejao's annual woes, I think we should send good karma toward all bigs in the NBA. Clearly, it's needed by all teams including the Cavs these days.

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    Didn't Evan Turner have a similar injury back in OSU?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_kahuna View Post
    You're a poster that likes to appear like he knows what he's talking about but most of the time you're talking out of your ass. Need I remind you that you tried to pass off Brandon Knight as this young point guard with worldly passing skills because you claimed he averaged 7.9 assists per game (which was wrong because 7.9 was his assist average per 36). I'll let you figure out what his assist average per game is now since you like to manipulate numbers for your own benefit until someone calls you out on it.

    The other thing is you claim that I was a Waiters hater and that I always go into the game thread trashing his game. Which I never did and called you out on it and you have failed to acknowledge that that was false or offer any kind of apology. Just because I like Drummond and felt that he should have been the #4 pick doesn't mean I don't like Waiters. Not sure if you can get that through your thick skull.

    Lastly, when have I ever say that Drummond is the next coming of Dwight Howard. Or even a guarantee future 1st team player or even an all-star? Your claims and lies are absurd. That's why people see you as a punching bag on this forum. You lie and make unsubstantiated claims to make yourself look good and when someone calls you out on your BS, you do the usual thing and go into hiding until the dust settles and reappear to start your BS up again. Just like what your doing now son.
    first of all, I am rather consistent in my views and typically have an array of information that supports my views. People can disagree with with my information, refute it with their own information or present a different opinion. Thats what the boards are for . what you percieve as being a "punching bag" are typically rational discussions with different points of view. the kind of things that typically are encouraged in forums. you on the other hand have tried to use me as a punching bag literally several times and always they resutlts both iof us getting moderated for inappropiate lines of discussion.

    now take Brevin Knight for example. You wanted to use Brevin Knights as an excuse for lackluster performances by Drummond. I pointed out that in the preseason he was working on distributing the ball. This statement was supported not only by his stats but also by Knight himself and his play on the court. Of course once the season started Frank had him play more aggressive on the offensive end because Detroit needs that. at the same time Knights assist rate and assist percentage have both increased. as far as your per 36 fit. it really didnt change anything. his numbers were up no matter if you went by per 36, per 48 or by the minute. I even took the time to correct my post and even with the correction the statement was still valid.

    some people when they run out of supported arguments like to attack the poster to prove their point.

    its amazing to me that people can spend an entire season bashing Thompson for not having a jump shot but then drool over this guy

    Shot Distance At Rim 150 223 .673 0 0 .673 89 .593
    3 to <10 ft 10 37 .270 0 0 .270 5 .500
    10 to <16 ft 0 6 .000 0 0 .000 0
    16 ft to <3-pt 0 4 .000 0 0 .000 0
    3-pt 1 2 .500 1 2 .500 .750 0 .000

    Split Value FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% eFG% Ast'd %Ast'd
    Shot Type Dunk 85 94 .904 0 0 .904 60 .706
    Hook Shot 1 9 .111 0 0 .111 0 .000
    Jump Shot 8 37 .216 1 2 .500 .230 5 .625
    Lay-Up 51 104 .490 0 0 .490 29 .569
    Tip Shot 16 28 .571 0 0 .571 0 .000

    If you want a highlight real guy who can shoot well solely on put backs and cuts then Drummond is your guy.

    Once again If Drummond is properly blocked out which is difficult for the typical back up to do with an athlete of this type he is basically rendered ineffective.. This will make itself really evident if the Detroit ever gets to the playoffs. although Drummond will still have value as a rebound and putback guy offensively and of course his cutting ability will take a guy out of the paint.

    now back to the Draft.. your going to take Andre Drummond over Anthony Davis? no didnt think so. Michael Kidd Gilchrist? Bradley Beal? Dion Waiters? Damien Llliard?

    Thomas Robinson , Harrison Barnes, Terrence Ross are all debatable but none of those were Cavs picks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wuck View Post
    Bummer we won't get to see more of Drummond for awhile. Like Scholar, I suspect they won't hesitate to shut him down this year. No need to rush him back. He's had a fantastic start to his career, though. Hopefully this doesn't linger.

    Considering that the Cavs are considering picking up Oden and considering Varejao's annual woes, I think we should send good karma toward all bigs in the NBA. Clearly, it's needed by all teams including the Cavs these days.
    That is my guess as well. Their first rounder is owed to Charlotte but top 14 protected, next year it goes down to top 6 protected. Arguably, it might be in their best interests not to try too hard this season.
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    Drummond is pretty awful offensively. but, you can't argue with his offensive rebounding. At some point he's going to average 5 offensive rebounds. He has some time to develope his post work, he's barely privileged to watch porn, and smoke cigarettes, can't even drink beer. He's probably going to be over 300 lbs. in his prime, and as shaq showed, you can live off the dunk in the nba when you are the biggest man on the floor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oasis05 View Post
    Drummond is pretty awful offensively. but, you can't argue with his offensive rebounding. At some point he's going to average 5 offensive rebounds. He has some time to develope his post work, he's barely privileged to watch porn, and smoke cigarettes, can't even drink beer. He's probably going to be over 300 lbs. in his prime, and as shaq showed, you can live off the dunk in the nba when you are the biggest man on the floor.
    Shaq was a LOT bigger than Drummond. Drummond will never be anywhere near as big as Shaq.

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    Shaq rookie season http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=91tnm0Y02YY

    Drummond may drop some weight, but he has the frame to put on pounds. In pre draft measurements shaq weighed in at 300 lbs, Drummond was 280. Shaq was a few inches taller.

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    Wait a second...

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    now take Brevin Knight for example. You wanted to use Brevin Knights as an excuse for lackluster performances by Drummond. I pointed out that in the preseason he was working on distributing the ball. This statement was supported not only by his stats but also by Knight himself and his play on the court. Of course once the season started Frank had him play more aggressive on the offensive end because Detroit needs that. at the same time Knights assist rate and assist percentage have both increased. as far as your per 36 fit. it really didnt change anything. his numbers were up no matter if you went by per 36, per 48 or by the minute. I even took the time to correct my post and even with the correction the statement was still valid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oasis05 View Post
    Drummond is pretty awful offensively. but, you can't argue with his offensive rebounding. At some point he's going to average 5 offensive rebounds. He has some time to develope his post work, he's barely privileged to watch porn, and smoke cigarettes, can't even drink beer. He's probably going to be over 300 lbs. in his prime, and as shaq showed, you can live off the dunk in the nba when you are the biggest man on the floor.
    Who the hell said you had to be of age to do any of those things? Especially the porn; Skinemax come on son.

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    Who the hell said you had to be of age to do any of those things? Especially the porn; Skinemax come on son.
    Or, you know, the entire fucking internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Brickman View Post
    Or, you know, the entire fucking internet.
    Listen man, I'm getting old, we were limited in my day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPK View Post
    Listen man, I'm getting old, we were limited in my day.
    Haha but we're talking about Drummond!

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    Wait a second...
    come on you gotta just let that one slip on by

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    Quote Originally Posted by oasis05 View Post
    Drummond is pretty awful offensively. but, you can't argue with his offensive rebounding. At some point he's going to average 5 offensive rebounds. He has some time to develope his post work, he's barely privileged to watch porn, and smoke cigarettes, can't even drink beer. He's probably going to be over 300 lbs. in his prime, and as shaq showed, you can live off the dunk in the nba when you are the biggest man on the floor.
    Shot Distance At Rim 603 768 .785 0 0 .785 406 .673
    3 to <10 ft 334 798 .419 0 0 .419 212 .635
    10 to <16 ft 65 191 .340 0 0 .340 29 .446
    16 ft to <3-pt 2 7 .286 0 0 .286 0 .000
    3-pt 0 2 .000 0 2 .000 .000 0
    Split Value FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% eFG% Ast'd %Ast'd
    Shot Type Dunk 287 300 .957 0 0 .957 180 .627
    Hook Shot 131 256 .512 0 0 .512 82 .626
    Jump Shot 196 645 .304 0 2 .000 .304 123 .628
    Lay-Up 217 342 .635 0 0 .635 154 .710
    Tip Shot 4 14 .286 0 0 .286 0 .000
    Now these numbers were compiled as an 8 year vet but shaq got around the paint.

    he was also largely responsible for turning around Orlando from a 21 win team to a 40 win team in his rookie season.

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