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    Default Re: Who is the Browns' General Manager for the 2013 off-season?

    Horrendous.

    Really a shame, if true.
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    Default Re: Who is the Browns' General Manager for the 2013 off-season?

    This, to me, is an utter embarrassment for the City of Cleveland. These are two resumes that would not get through screening at other places in the league and Banner, with a slam of his gavel, has seemed to put Cleveland squarely within the cross-hairs of their services.

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    I'm not buying any of that. No one truly knows what the hell is going on in Berea. But its Grossi and I stopped believing what he said along time ago.
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    Default Re: Who is the Browns' General Manager for the 2013 off-season?

    Now Grossi mentioned Tom Cable as a candidate. Are we gonna believe this as well?
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    Now Grossi mentioned Tom Cable as a candidate. Are we gonna believe this as well?
    I'm not going to ignore it..

    Look, you definitely have a point, but then what is the point of reading any media? It may be true, it may not be. I guess we'll see; however, Grossi has been covering the Browns for longer than I've been alive. Not a particular fan of him because of his personal jabs at the team and people in charge, but I would like to think that the most reputable Browns beat writer in a long era of writing and Hall of Fame voter has legitimate connections.

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    Default Re: Who is the Browns' General Manager for the 2013 off-season?

    Haslam had me so excited when he bought the team.

    If Heckert is fired for these hacks, Haslam has already lost me. Ridiculous. If it happens, it becomes clear as day that his end-of-season "evaluation" that he keeps mentioning is actually irrelevant, and he came in with personnel changes in mind regardless of the current regime's performance.

    Infuriating.

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    Default Re: Who is the Browns' General Manager for the 2013 off-season?

    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrich91 View Post
    Haslam had me so excited when he bought the team.

    If Heckert is fired for these hacks, Haslam has already lost me. Ridiculous. If it happens, it becomes clear as day that his end-of-season "evaluation" that he keeps mentioning is actually irrelevant, and he came in with personnel changes in mind regardless of the current regime's performance.

    Infuriating.
    Yep.
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    Default Re: Who is the Browns' General Manager for the 2013 off-season?

    Bill Polian

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    Default Re: Who is the Browns' General Manager for the 2013 off-season?

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    Default Re: Who is the Browns' General Manager for the 2013 off-season?

    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrich91 View Post
    Haslam had me so excited when he bought the team.

    If Heckert is fired for these hacks, Haslam has already lost me. Ridiculous. If it happens, it becomes clear as day that his end-of-season "evaluation" that he keeps mentioning is actually irrelevant, and he came in with personnel changes in mind regardless of the current regime's performance.

    Infuriating.
    He likely did. But you can't hire a new coach and GM mid-season, so what good would be served by firing them in October, when he took over? It makes sense to wait until the end of the season to make the changes. I've said this before, but while I'm not a huge fan of Lombardi, it remains to be seen how this team will approach and handle personnel decisions moving forward. Does Banner implicitly trust Lombardi on player evaluations, or will the scouting director have more say in the draft? Will Haslam be directly involved, or will he defer to the people he has hired? Is Lombardi filling a seat for a more competent coach, who would demand final say over the roster, or will Banner maintain final say on all personnel decisions?

    There's way too many ifs right now, but it is possible Lombardi may be hired but not have a significant amount of control over player evaluations, rendering scenarios fans fear moot. I also have a feeling that Haslam will be more of a hands-on owner like a Jerry Jones, and will be directly involved and consulted on any significant moves this franchise makes. I really like Heckert, but debating whether or not he deserves his job is pointless. I don't think a realistic argument can be made that he has "failed" in his position, but it doesn't change the fact that a new owner is likely going to want to hire his own personnel. Let's see what this team looks like in October next year before drawing conclusions about leadership.

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    Default Re: Who is the Browns' General Manager for the 2013 off-season?

    In response to the OP's question, its a bullshit question.

    Nobody will be the GM of the Browns. The structure of the organization will be non-conventional and an attempt to streamline the front-office. The goal will be to reign in the new era of front offices in the NFL.

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    Jesus Christ... Banner calling the shots with Lombardi and McDaniels? Might as well give up watching the Browns now and just save myself the frustration.

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    If those 2 clowns are running the show, ahhh who am I kidding Ill still watch.

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    If those 2 clowns are running the show, ahhh who am I kidding Ill still watch.
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    If those 2 clowns are running the show, ahhh who am I kidding Ill still watch.
    Yeah, I'm still gonna watch. If nothing else it gives us a ton to bitch about.

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