Week 9 vs Ravens-November 4 1:00 p.m.

[Stephen]

Of course I know it's blasphemy to defend Shurmer.

But wouldn't you rather run the reverse when it's tougher for the defense to change direction (i.e. a rainstorm)?

Just a thought I had while reading the uproar...

[MGMT]

I feel you titty; however, wouldn't you want the ball being tossed around as little as possible in inclement conditions?

[JMcCurry08]

Of course I know it's blasphemy to defend Shurmer.

But wouldn't you rather run the reverse when it's tougher for the defense to change direction (i.e. a rainstorm)?

Just a thought I had while reading the uproar...

Not when the ball is wet, increasing the chance of a fumble like Benjamin did

[MGMT]

J Mac are there any tweets about the injury report? I don't use twitter I just see the sidebar on espn but it only had stuff about Rubin.

[JMcCurry08]

J Mac are there any tweets about the injury report? I don't use twitter I just see the sidebar on espn but it only had stuff about Rubin.

Nothing on the Browns yet, but for Baltimore

Haloti Ngata (right shoulder, right knee) and Pernell McPhee (thigh, knee) not at practice during portion open to reporters

— Aaron Wilson (@RavensInsider) November 2, 2012

Haloti Ngata currently expected to play Sunday, but unlikely to be a full workload after not practicing past two days, per a source.

— Aaron Wilson (@RavensInsider) November 2, 2012

[Ohdang]

Sweet, the less we see Ngata the better.

[Doc Shakalou]

Trent seems like a must play this week for any fantasy owners, that defense is in shambles right now.

[cdt]

I just hope we keep the same formation and the same personnel in when we do the double reverse. If Benjamin is active by gosh we're doing the damn reverse.

[Doc Shakalou]

I just hope we keep the same formation and the same personnel in when we do the double reverse. If Benjamin is active by gosh we're doing the damn reverse.

It's hysterical to me. It's like Shurmur knows his play calling sucks, so he's trying to throw in a trick. Problem is he runs the same trick play every time.

[kiji]

I think it's a product of two different people calling the plays. I really believe that there's set series of plays that Shurmur is calling, and then when Childress sees something in the defense, he calls down with a play to attack gaps or over-pursuit in the defense.

[JiggleIt]

Well, whomever is to blame for calling a toss double reverse in the rain on a muddy field, should have play-calling duties stripped for life.

b00bie doesn't know anything about anything.

[ArchieBunker7]

Ya gotta hope Phil Taylor makes a difference up front, or else Ray Rice may just set another new career high in rushing yards. I think our best shot to win is take advantage of their struggling D by running the hell out of TRich and even Dr. Spins-a-lot. The first obvious passing situation, I let T-Sizzle get all excited and come barnstorming into the backfield and do a PA screen and listen to Donovan yell "Run, Trent, run!"

Finally, get Cribbs the damn ball. He loves playing against our divisional opponents. Get him 4 or 5 touches on offense and I think he turns at least one of them into a huge play.

That double reverse....haven't we run that like 3 games in a row now? Ummm, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the point of a trick play to catch the D off guard? I'd say BAL's D has that one studied up enough. Do we have only one gadget play in the whole damn book? With that in mind....and keeping with my Cribbs theory....trickery to Cribbs for a big play. Make it happen Chilly.

[Stephen]

Tough to blame the rain for Benjamin trying to run without the football and letting it clang off his hands.

[The Voice]

Browns win a nail biter. Ray Lewis is seen in the background crying.

[JiggleIt]

Tough to blame the rain for Benjamin trying to run without the football and letting it clang off his hands.

Thank you for conceding defeat. This makes it easier on all of us.