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    Do you have a truck? Pimp yourself on craiglist, local stores etc, for people who need stuff moved. Since I moved to NC Ive been severely hampered by my inability to move or pick stuff up that wont fit in a saturn.
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    Do you have a truck? Pimp yourself on craiglist, local stores etc, for people who need stuff moved. Since I moved to NC Ive been severely hampered by my inability to move or pick stuff up that wont fit in a saturn.
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    A little nervous about recommending anything because of your severe depression issue. Would hate to send you down a path that you regret and compound your problem. That said...

    I think someone mentioned it earlier, but welding is in high demand right now. They make a bunch of cash on their jobs and more on the side. Lincoln Electric has a welding school. I think to go through the full 16 week program is like $5K. Not sure how much it is for the basic 4 week course. Check out their website...it's all in there. I think you'd be able to find a local job around 40K pretty easy to start. Once you are experienced you should be able to double that. If you are open to moving to try something different you can probably make 6 figures working a lot of hours and overtime.

    http://www.lincolnelectric.com/en-us...ng-school.aspx

    School Offering
    Lincoln Electric has one of the oldest and most prestigious welding
    schools in the United States. Founded in 1917, the school has taught
    over 100,000 students from around the world. On staff are seven full
    time, professional instructors with a wealth of knowledge and
    experience. Many of them also teach courses off-site, as well as
    provide track side welding support at the top motorsports racing
    events in the U.S., including Indianapolis 500, Daytona 500, etc.
    Lincoln Electric’s Welding School offers a variety of classes, from a 6
    week Basic course to an advanced 16 week Comprehensive course,
    as well as 1 week classes on specific welding processes,
    certification or customized programs. Classes run from 8:00 a.m. –
    2:30 p.m. daily, 5 days per week and 50 weeks per year. Students
    spend about 20% of their time in the classroom and 80% in the booth
    learning to weld. Instructor to student ratio is kept small to provide
    plenty of individual help. A large supply of steel plate is provided so
    students spend all their time learning to weld, not cutting and
    preparing practice coupons.
    Benefits of Attending
    • Learn and practice welding in a safe working environment.
    • Receive a Lincoln Electric Welding School graduation certificate
    upon successful completion of the course.
    • Combine your new welding skills with Lincoln’s excellent
    reputation in the industry for producing quality students to help
    improve your chances of landing a great welding job.
    • Enjoy a variety of temporary living options close to the school in
    safe, secure neighborhoods.
    • Network with other students in the welding industry.

    Going to school to be a CNC machinist is also worth a look. People can't find skilled machinists...they just use button pushers who have other people set the machines up for them. You aren't running greasy old engine lathes, you will be running machines that cost $100K-$1M. Nice part about these jobs is if it's a company with a hot product you can work your way up pretty quickly if you have a brain. Many companies are having a difficult time finding skilled machinists. You can move around to different industries easily if you don't like where you are at or if your industry is slow. Anyone that cuts metal needs skilled machinists - automotive, medical, aerospace, enegy, etc. You'll start out on the bottom of the totem poll, but it's pretty easy to move up in any company if you have a solid personality.


    Before you look into these or any job, I'd really consider some therapy(or self-help books)...maybe some meds...they worked for me when i was severely depressed. You need to get yourself out of the rut and get your head straight before comitting to anything. You are on the internet a lot, get off of RCF and do some research. Find out what's hot and what's not. Make lists of things that you are into, are passionate about or just might enjoy. Life is much easier if you enjoy what you are doing, if not, you'll continue to be depressed. Don't make any quick decisions. Last thing you want to do is plop down $5K, get a welding certificate, only to find out you hate wearing helmets.

    Lately I've found myself regretting i never got into law enforcement or even the fire department...it's what i wanted to do growing up. I look at my friends that are firemen and police and i get jealous of their camaraderie...they all seem less stressed too. Now I think i'd like to be a teacher when i'm 50.

    Not sure how far along you are, but look into online courses and chip away at the college degree if you are close. You can work fulltime and take a few courses a year with ease.

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    I come from a family of machinists and my old man is a beast with CNCs but stay away from it if you want to make a career out of it, they are shipping jobs out of the job quicker than they fill out the invoice
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    Is it possible that you have ADHD?

    Just a thought. there are a number if online screening tests. That won't make the diagnosis, but could point you in a different direction with your doctor.

    Has your depression treatment helped much? Or do they keep trying med after med and they don't really help? And are you really not all that depressed, except for the fact that you can't freaking complete anything?

    Just a thought.

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    What did you make this year? What job is it?

    So far this year i have made about 50k but i am in the process of starting my own little business. All i need to do is provide labor, no paperwork or stress at all. Sorry i dont really want to get into detail but it involves construction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiddo View Post
    So far this year i have made about 50k but i am in the process of starting my own little business. All i need to do is provide labor, no paperwork or stress at all. Sorry i dont really want to get into detail but it involves construction.
    Sounds legit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiddo View Post
    So far this year i have made about 50k but i am in the process of starting my own little business. All i need to do is provide labor, no paperwork or stress at all. Sorry i dont really want to get into detail but it involves construction.
    You have another thing coming if you think starting your own business doesnt come with stress and paperwork.

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    Is it possible that you have ADHD?

    Just a thought. there are a number if online screening tests. That won't make the diagnosis, but could point you in a different direction with your doctor.

    Has your depression treatment helped much? Or do they keep trying med after med and they don't really help? And are you really not all that depressed, except for the fact that you can't freaking complete anything?

    Just a thought.
    depression is a disease that is constant in my family. My mother has it and also my sister. I was diagnosed in high school. Lost a lot of family and friends to death. Lost my uncle (my mother's twin brother) at 7, my grandmother at 12 (she lived with us). Grandpa and other grandma right before high school. My father was an alcoholic, sister is probably one now. Lots of worries and concerns and even possible further mental disease. Been tested for bipolar disease, but they said they didn't think I was. Hard for me to share with people especially doctors.

    I don't blame my depression for my failures in school one bit. But I have an extremely addictive personality. Probably a combination of the alcoholism and depression. Always looking for things to swing my happiness. Huge risk taker. Total lunatic at times.

    Then at times I feel very confident. It seems like when I truly put the time and effort in I am successful. I believe I'm very mentally tough though. Things that people have trouble controlling come easy to me. Seems like I struggle more with the things normal people don't. Couple screws loose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Walton. View Post
    depression is a disease that is constant in my family. My mother has it and also my sister. I was diagnosed in high school. Lost a lot of family and friends to death. Lost my uncle (my mother's twin brother) at 7, my grandmother at 12 (she lived with us). Grandpa and other grandma right before high school. My father was an alcoholic, sister is probably one now. Lots of worries and concerns and even possible further mental disease. Been tested for bipolar disease, but they said they didn't think I was. Hard for me to share with people especially doctors.

    I don't blame my depression for my failures in school one bit. But I have an extremely addictive personality. Probably a combination of the alcoholism and depression. Always looking for things to swing my happiness. Huge risk taker. Total lunatic at times.

    Then at times I feel very confident. It seems like when I truly put the time and effort in I am successful. I believe I'm very mentally tough though. Things that people have trouble controlling come easy to me. Seems like I struggle more with the things normal people don't. Couple screws loose.
    Wow, really sorry to hear it. Sounds really tough.

    I still wonder if it's not a straight forward depression, though. Yes, it's of course possible that it is, especially with your family history. But it's also possible to have depression and ADHD together. It's also possible to have Bipolar 2 Disorder, a mikder form of Bipolar, which is much harder to diagnose and often missed.

    Some of the things you have said in bold make me wonder about Bipolar 2.

    Some of the things you said underlined make me wonder about ADHD.

    Some sound like both.

    Not to throw a wrench in your treatment. And of course, I'm not your doc, but it's pretty common to keep treating for depression without success when these two diagnoses are often missed.

    Just take a few minutes to look through the links below. If it is totally off base, forget about it. Sorry to have intruded. If it rings a bell, bring it in to your doc for discussion.

    Either way, I wish you the best in your career and in life!

    http://www.amazon.com/You-Mean-Lazy-.../dp/0743264487

    http://psychcentral.com/addquiz.htm


    http://www.webmd.com/bipolar-disorde...lar-2-disorder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus View Post

    Going to school to be a CNC machinist is also worth a look. People can't find skilled machinists...they just use button pushers who have other people set the machines up for them. You aren't running greasy old engine lathes, you will be running machines that cost $100K-$1M. Nice part about these jobs is if it's a company with a hot product you can work your way up pretty quickly if you have a brain. Many companies are having a difficult time finding skilled machinists. You can move around to different industries easily if you don't like where you are at or if your industry is slow. Anyone that cuts metal needs skilled machinists - automotive, medical, aerospace, enegy, etc. You'll start out on the bottom of the totem poll, but it's pretty easy to move up in any company if you have a solid personality.

    .
    A worked for a steel parts manufacturer back in Avon a few years back. The main tool and die maker they had was a 70+ year old German guy who was a humble guy who knew everything. He set up every machine and was the real person who ran that shop. I know computers have automated a lot of the process, but there is still demand for the manual knowledge of both setup and operation of presses and stamping machines.

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    I was just like you. School never motivated me but I always knew once I got into the work force I would work hard, go the extra mile, etc. All I could remember during school was, I just have to get through this, graduate and get a job. Honestly if you have a college degree its SOOO much easier to find something that pays well. It's hard enough to find something at all. Took me 2 years to go from graduation for full time, benefits paying job.

    The thing everyone wants is experience. I had 3 internships before I got my first full time job. But one good thing about staying in school and getting through it is they can help you find an internship or something to get you experience. If you think of school as something necessary to get you to where you want to go, maybe you can get through it.

    Hope this helps.

    Good luck.

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    You have another thing coming if you think starting your own business doesnt come with stress and paperwork.

    Oh really? Dont comment on something you know nothing about. I dont need employees. I show up on a jobsite every day work for about 8 hours and go home. There is no billing to do

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