Game 15: Phoenix Suns @ Cleveland Cavaliers, November 27th, 7:00PM (EST)

[Tornicade]

crybabies.. toughen up.

[Pioneer10]

4th game in 5 nights for a young team which has also been on the road for most of the season.

Predictable loss

[Tornicade]

4th game in 5 nights for a young team which has also been on the road for most of the season.

Predictable loss

not too mention no surprise that a bench of fresh leg vets who were all starting last year for various teams did the most damage.

[Pioneer10]

In 2-3 years he will be a top 10 center in the NBA. Tristan will be a bench player still trying to convince himself and everyone else that he's a lefty. Jonas would have been our starting center for the next dozen years.

So am I making much of a leap in thinking the organization has tried to make him switch hands (probably at least on his FT's to start)?

[Dshuks]

No surprise. The team is losing and has been losing for 3 years straight. Kyrie is hurt and no one outside of Andy even looks to be NBA caliber. Not sure why I'm still watching...oh yeah, I've followed losing teams my whole life.

Melodramatic much ?

" Woe is me, I'm making a conscious decision to watch a team I know isn't very good instead of doing something else with my time"

Having a good team or a bad team usually goes in cycles , right now unfortunately all of the Cleveland teams are in the bad part of the cycle . But eventually they will each in turn come out of it. It's even looking like the browns and the Cavs might be good at the same time actually.

[mds]

It is an internet forum, deal with it. :-)

Apparently the citizens of Cleveland don't feel much differently since they aren't going to games. I watch the games because I'm a die hard fan. Doesn't mean I don't want them to improve at some point.

[ReAL DeAL]

I don't know why fans are expecting wins this season. We still need to lose folks, only change this year is we are looking good at doing it. The team is watchable, the star is hurt, the tank needs to keep moving. Next year is the start of Cavs Basketball in my mind.

[ReAL DeAL]

Everybody sucked except for Andy, Alonzo, and Dion to a certain extent.

Still though, Dion shooting 7-20 every night is starting to piss me off. His FG% on the year is down to 37%, which isn't awful, but if it wasn't for a few amazing games, it'd be much lower.

And don't even get me started on Miles or Thompson. I'm starting to really hate both of them.

37% is good.......as a 3 pt %.

It's really awful though, worse than Laura Hughes. Am I shocked? No. He'll grow into a shooter.

[mds]

I don't know why fans are expecting wins this season. We still need to lose folks, only change this year is we are looking good at doing it. The team is watchable, the star is hurt, the tank needs to keep moving. Next year is the start of Cavs Basketball in my mind.

I doubt many fans are really expecting wins at this point, just hoping for some here and there. I don't think the casual fan thinks about the tank too often, they just want to be entertained. Without the threat of winning a lot of drama is lost and the casual fan finds something else to do.

[ReAL DeAL]

Jonas is nothing

When are people going to wake the fuck up and realize there wasn't shit in that draft other than Kyrie? (Minus 2 gems in Leonard & Faried that were picked in the damn 20's).

Kawhi was selected at 15. Not in the 20's.

You don't pick a Offensive rebounder, shot blocker with high motor player at #4. Actually, i have to question that high motor label. Now if he had somewhat of a post game, I can accept the pick, but he has little to none. He sucks. I can name a bunch of 6'9 players that can do what TT is doing.

CG blew it like Max said.

[Green Lantern]

Well Scott said aside from AV everyone else sucked..so I'm not gonna replay the game to watch.

[Futuredome]

The Cavs didn't want a fast riser with the 4th pick who would make the team good, to quick. They wanted 3 straight top 4 picks(and lets face it, due to the lockout, the "TT" pick should have a *) and my God, they are pushing it. The Thunder plan it is.

If TT becomes "good" by year 3, so be it. If he doesn't. Ditto.