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    Default Re: Browns "reboot" coaching search

    Even so, it just gives the vibe that we had one egg in our basket.

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    Default Re: Browns "reboot" coaching search

    Quote Originally Posted by Malt View Post
    What the Browns could have done:

    Fire Shurmur, promote Jauron to HC, and bring in a new DC. Keep the rest of the coaching staff in place, and keep Heckert in charge of drafting players. If we are to believe Shurmur was that terrible of a coach (I do), this would have allowed this team to move forward with very little turmoil. Would Jauron be the best HC candidate out there? Probably not, but stability still has significant value.

    Instead, we chose to clean house. So Haslam and Banner believed our current team's direction and philosophy could be improved significantly. They've taken a large risk here. If they need to settle for a candidate who is a marginally better option than Jauron, Childress or even Andy Reid, then they have failed, because installing new systems, having to gut some of our personnel, and losing a solid talent evaluator at GM isn't worth a marginal improvement at HC.

    Just my two cents.


    They were going to have to land someone substantial to reel me back in after cutting Heckert. I'm sorry, I just don't believe in Joe Banner at all. I can't trust someone whose face is always bunched up in a squint or as if he's standing around someone who's ripped death ass.

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    Fuck Jimmy Haslem, and fuck Joe Banner.

    That's pretty much how I feel right now; and I don't think anything can change that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I-77 NORTH View Post
    Fuck Jimmy Haslem, and fuck Joe Banner.

    That's pretty much how I feel right now; and I don't think anything can change that.
    Better than Lerner and Holmgren

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    Quote Originally Posted by I-77 NORTH View Post
    Fuck Jimmy Haslem, and fuck Joe Banner.

    That's pretty much how I feel right now; and I don't think anything can change that.



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    Default Re: Browns "reboot" coaching search

    Notre Dame is as good of a job as there is in all of football. Brian Kelly is not leaving that to coach the Browns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSurge View Post
    Because when the team itself comes out and says they are "rebooting" the search, I take that as starting over from the beginning.

    The only guy they really chased after and offered a contract (supposedly) was Kelly. That leads me to believe that once they didn't get the guy they really wanted, we're back to square one (rebooting).
    I'm just saying. It's already been reported Saban told us he was staying before the entire Chip Kelly fiasco happened. So Kelly, at the best, was the #2 option. We also don't know if they contacted Gruden/Cowher/etc before Saban.

    Bill O'Brien was interviewed & it was reported we had legit interest, but he bailed out early in the process to return to his current job. Marrone was interviewed twice, including once while Kelly was interviewing with Philly.

    So there were numerous other candidates before & during the Kelly fiasco.

    If anything, the Browns have to "reboot" because Kelly was the 4th candidate (not in order of preference, but chronologically) to decide to go elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I-77 NORTH View Post
    Fuck Jimmy Haslem, and fuck Joe Banner.

    That's pretty much how I feel right now; and I don't think anything can change that.
    I don't get this line of thinking at all.

    They can't put a gun to the guy's head & make them sign a contract. They spent 7 hours with the guy. Then Philly did the same. And he didn't sign with either team. That should tell you this was all on Kelly, not the organizations involved.

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    Saban says he isn't leaving Bama. It DOES NOT mean he isn't leaving Bama.

    "I'm not going to be the coach at Alabama", 2 weeks later, he is the coach at Alabama.

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    Saban says he isn't leaving Bama. It DOES NOT mean he isn't leaving Bama.

    "I'm not going to be the coach at Alabama", 2 weeks later, he is the coach at Alabama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triplethreat View Post
    Saban says he isn't leaving Bama. It DOES NOT mean he isn't leaving Bama.

    "I'm not going to be the coach at Alabama", 2 weeks later, he is the coach at Alabama.
    I mean, it's entirely possible his tune will change after the game and he just said he was staying to keep his players focused.

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    It's not because they 'couldn't sign someone'; it's the fact that they let their arogance get in the way of keeping Heckert here, when half of the problem was finding a competent GM at this point. I STILL don't understand the decision to let him go; they were more familiar with him than any other possible GM in the league, Heckert got praised around the league as being a highly skilled talent-finder..

    ..so what Jim Nutz?! Huh?? Do you and Joe Shrimp-lips have this perfect fantasy in your head of assembling the perfect combo of GM and head coach?! I have this feeling in my heart, that these guys don't know shit about football. Neither Jim Nutz (obvious) or Joe Shrimp-Lips. Looks to me as if they're chasing their own tails.

    Another fucking year on the marry-go-round.

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    Jim who and Joe what?

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    Saban is a known liar. I have no idea why anyone would take his word on anything. Not that I think he's leaving, but I sure as hell wouldn't take his word on it.

    But I sure as hell hope my Irish beat him badly tonight either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyro Kinesis View Post
    Jim who and Joe what?




    Jim-Nutz and Joe Shrimp-Lips.

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