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    Quote Originally Posted by shoes22 View Post
    When's Ilgauskas getting his jersey retired? Surprised there's no news on that front.
    Eh. He works for the team now anyway, so there's no rush. My guess is they wait until the team makes the playoffs again and retire it during the first home playoff game to a pack and rowdy house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Brickman View Post
    Eh. He works for the team now anyway, so there's no rush. My guess is they wait until the team makes the playoffs again and retire it during the first home playoff game to a pack and rowdy house.
    They'll retire it on opening night in 2014 with Lebron in tow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Brickman View Post
    Eh. He works for the team now anyway, so there's no rush. My guess is they wait until the team makes the playoffs again and retire it during the first home playoff game to a pack and rowdy house.
    This is accurate.

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    What's really strange about all of this is it seems like everyone in the Cleveland media is opening up to the idea of James returning.

    A year ago, not so much. There was the occasional thought which was quickly shot down, only to be rekindled when James made those statements during the heat of Linsanity that he'd like to play in front of us again someday. Then it died out again.

    Nobody really knew what to think, we brushed it off as James teasing us like he's always done.


    This year we get the news from Wine and Gold that he's seriously considering coming back, It sounds to me like W&G spoke to Rich Paul, LBJ's agent who would definitely be about as good of a source as you're gonna get.

    Wine and Gold also mentioned how Gilbert has been aware of James' intentions for a while, but he isn't going to say anything or obviously try to recruit him as that would be against league tampering policy. W&G thought James was trying to establish back-channel communications and possibly see how this would all sit with us Cavalier fans.


    It's just strange to me how Fred McLeod started dropping the "burning Akron rubber" call in the games again. Not to look into it too far, but the Plain Dealer has had numerous writers warm up to this idea in the past couple days.

    It really seems to me besides maybe Colonel and Tlyons a LOT of people in Cleveland have this thought percolating in their mind right now and the more we think about that potential tandem, the easier it is for us to one day forgive this guy.


    Then you have Michael dogging LeBron, which I absolutely love, even though it's a little petty on MJ's part. Still nothing like hearing the greatest player of all time come out and essentially say "you're no threat to me punk"

    Gotta wonder how deep that hits home to LeBron. That's his boyhood idol basically saying I have you figured out, I would have dominated you on the court, your Miami Heat is nothing but a cop out because you're weak. I think the only thing that Jordan might semi-respect is James returning to Cleveland and amending for his past. Not that Jordan's opinion is going to change James' ultimate decision, but to say that it's completely meaningless is also foolish. It could be a sub-conscious factor that James contemplates, considering Mike is pretty much the undisputed GOAT and voice for "the old school era" of past players.

    The pool of money and glory LeBron could have back in Cleveland is slowly re-filling. James is patching the holes, Gilbert is feeding it to us in baby bite sized portions until 2014 when we will become ravenous again.

    By 2014 almost all of Cleveland will have long forgotten about past events, we'll have been so far removed from July 2010 that we just might get nostalgic for the kid from Akron.

    Our core will be looking like some professional ballers by then, but we still won't have enough talent to win a championship. James changes all of that.

    Accept him back, become the best team in the league, pack the Q all over again and just enjoy the fuckin show. It's pretty much an offer you can't refuse. Unless you're still bitter and think James is the exact same kid he was back in '10.

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    What I find interesting is a couple months ago, the topic of conversation changed from "Do you think LeBron will come back?" to "What is this team going to look like when LeBron comes back? Will you accept him when he returns?" Slowly but surely, the conversation shifted from speculation to expectation, like it's a forgone conclusion and people are just patiently waiting for it to happen.

    The "hot topic" regarding the Cavs is the summer of 2014 and their cap space and flexibility. There isn't a Cavs fan out there that isn't thinking about that summer and the pieces we could get. Roughly half the posters here make potential rosters for 2014 and beyond with James already on it. I've heard more than a few people say "when LeBron comes back" when talking about the Cavs. The hype machine is at an all-time high, and we're still 16 months away.

    It doesn't help that LeBron himself nor anyone close to him is denying these rumors. It's because most of these people have also bought into the "LeBron to Cleveland" narrative and are just adding fuel to the fire.

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    Z was not worth that contract, and I wouldn't doubt Ferry originally was gun shy on giving it to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shoes22 View Post
    What I find interesting is a couple months ago, the topic of conversation changed from "Do you think LeBron will come back?" to "What is this team going to look like when LeBron comes back? Will you accept him when he returns?" Slowly but surely, the conversation shifted from speculation to expectation, like it's a forgone conclusion and people are just patiently waiting for it to happen.

    The "hot topic" regarding the Cavs is the summer of 2014 and their cap space and flexibility. There isn't a Cavs fan out there that isn't thinking about that summer and the pieces we could get. Roughly half the posters here make potential rosters for 2014 and beyond with James already on it. I've heard more than a few people say "when LeBron comes back" when talking about the Cavs. The hype machine is at an all-time high, and we're still 16 months away.

    It doesn't help that LeBron himself nor anyone close to him is denying these rumors. It's because most of these people have also bought into the "LeBron to Cleveland" narrative and are just adding fuel to the fire.
    What was even weirder was how Kyrie addressed it in an interview so casually.

    Kyrie said something along the lines of "obviously, we're both aware of the speculation and things that are said in the media, if he were
    to come back, but honestly I'm just focused on second half of the season and he's focused on getting another championship.

    Some reporter just blatantly asked did you talk to LeBron about 2014? Kinda cool to see a reporter just sack up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdy89 View Post
    Anyone that wants Lebron back needs to start rooting against the Heat.

    If they win a title this year and next, not a chance in the world he leaves a team that is riding a 3 peat. He likely re-ups for 3 years until Wade is worthless and then hits the market in 2017.

    If they lose this year and win next year he stays. Again, he is not going to leave a core that won 2 titles in 4 years with 3 finals appearances.

    Win this year and lose next, depending on how it happens there is a chance to leaves if it looks like the window has shut for that team.

    Long story short he is not going to leave Miami if he wins it all next year.

    No matter how much talent Cleveland assembles, he is not going to leave a roster that just won a title with (were they to win it all in 13-14) and he knows can get over the hump for one that looks great on paper but he has never actually played with.

    The only way the Cleveland reunion happens is if it looks like Miami has run its course. He is not going to leave a roster he is winning titles with if Miami manages to reel some off the next year or 2.

    If you want #6 back, hope Miami stops winning titles.
    Don't really agree. LeBron with a roster full of role players in Cleveland was a championship contender. LeBron has improved as a player immensely since then. Just having LeBron on your team makes you a contender. He can win championships with just role players. If wade transitions into a role player and he still wins a championship, I could easily see him opting out.

    Repairing his overall image by coming to Cleveland would be worth more than trying to carry role players to a championship in Miami.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdy89 View Post
    Anyone that wants Lebron back needs to start rooting against the Heat.

    If they win a title this year and next, not a chance in the world he leaves a team that is riding a 3 peat. He likely re-ups for 3 years until Wade is worthless and then hits the market in 2017.

    If they lose this year and win next year he stays. Again, he is not going to leave a core that won 2 titles in 4 years with 3 finals appearances.

    Win this year and lose next, depending on how it happens there is a chance to leaves if it looks like the window has shut for that team.

    Long story short he is not going to leave Miami if he wins it all next year.

    No matter how much talent Cleveland assembles, he is not going to leave a roster that just won a title with (were they to win it all in 13-14) and he knows can get over the hump for one that looks great on paper but he has never actually played with.

    The only way the Cleveland reunion happens is if it looks like Miami has run its course. He is not going to leave a roster he is winning titles with if Miami manages to reel some off the next year or 2.

    If you want #6 back, hope Miami stops winning titles.
    Sounds exausting. How about we just root for our team and see wtf happens when it happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdy89 View Post
    If he is working on a 3-Peat at the time, going for #4 in a row trumps coming back to Cleveland every day and twice on Sundays.

    That is something Jordan never did, and would put Lebron in a league of his own were he to win 4 in a row with the same team. The Heat would then be a full blown dynasty, and he would not walk away from that chance at history.

    He can always come back to Cleveland down the road to put a bookend on his career. The way to expedite that process is for the Heat to not be NBA champs.
    A league of his own?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdy89 View Post
    Anyone that wants Lebron back needs to start rooting against the Heat.

    If they win a title this year and next, not a chance in the world he leaves a team that is riding a 3 peat. He likely re-ups for 3 years until Wade is worthless and then hits the market in 2017.

    If they lose this year and win next year he stays. Again, he is not going to leave a core that won 2 titles in 4 years with 3 finals appearances.

    Win this year and lose next, depending on how it happens there is a chance to leaves if it looks like the window has shut for that team.

    Long story short he is not going to leave Miami if he wins it all next year.

    No matter how much talent Cleveland assembles, he is not going to leave a roster that just won a title with (were they to win it all in 13-14) and he knows can get over the hump for one that looks great on paper but he has never actually played with.

    The only way the Cleveland reunion happens is if it looks like Miami has run its course. He is not going to leave a roster he is winning titles with if Miami manages to reel some off the next year or 2.

    If you want #6 back, hope Miami stops winning titles.
    Brussard has stated that lebron would have to win 1 more ring in miami before he leaves and if he doesnt win in the next 2 years hes more likely to stay

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    Quote Originally Posted by randymoss1881 View Post
    Brussard has stated that lebron would have to win 1 more ring in miami before he leaves and if he doesnt win in the next 2 years hes more likely to stay
    Brussard is quite possibly the worst source on the face of the earth. All of his speculation is wrong 99.999% of the time. His shtick is that he speculates both sides of the argument so that when something does happen he goes "See! See! I said that a week ago." He's fucking retarded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randymoss1881 View Post
    Brussard has stated that lebron would have to win 1 more ring in miami before he leaves and if he doesnt win in the next 2 years hes more likely to stay
    LeBron is also tons more likely to stay with the Cavs if he doesn't win a ring. Or no, that makes zero sense.

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    I pretty much ignore the rest of any post that starts with "Broussard said"...

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    I've stayed out of these threads for the most part, don't think I've actually made a post in here.

    Ignoring my feelings, and fan feelings. If we have the cap to sign LeBron, and he opts out... He is an absolute idiot to choose any other team over us from a basketball standpoint. You look at this team... Our four pieces (Kyrie, Dion, TT, this years pick) will all be under 23. Kyrie will be the best point guard in the world, and a top five player. If he wants to go to another big market like LA or New York, fine. But from an on the court standpoint? There will not be a team better than ours who can make a run at LeBron, end of story.

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