View Poll Results: Would you accept Lebrons return to Cleveland

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  • Only after a sincere apology to Cleveland

    38 19.39%
  • No way I want him here again!!

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Thread: #6's Return?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdy89 View Post
    In the modern era post Magic/Larry. With Salary Caps and free agency it is an entirely different NBA than the one Bill Russel played in.
    Sure the NBA has changed... but you can't hand pick which eras you can compare and which ones you can't. When Jordan played zone defenses were illegal and hand checking was prevalent. So LeBron is playing in a completely different NBA than Jordan played in.

    You're ruining your own argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cafemerald View Post
    Sure the NBA has changed... but you can't hand pick which eras you can compare and which ones you can't. When Jordan played zone defenses were illegal and hand checking was prevalent. So LeBron is playing in a completely different NBA than Jordan played in.

    You're ruining your own argument.
    Russell played during the civil war so Birdy's point still stands. Besides we know its not about Russell. It's more about Lebron doing something the GOAT never did, which is win 4 in a row(though I believe mj could have went 8 straight, very speculative though).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlyons View Post
    Russell played during the civil war so Birdy's point still stands. Besides we know its not about Russell. It's more about Lebron doing something the GOAT never did, which is win 4 in a row(though I believe mj could have went 8 straight, very speculative though).
    GOATs will always shift towards the more recent generation of players. Thats because the people arguing GOATs want to talk about players they have seen play. Michael's legacy as far as GOAT talk is concerned will be directly tied to his brand and how long his name stays relevant.

    Names like Bill Russel, Oscar Robertson, etc are so easily dismissed because a majority of people can't comment on them because they never watched them play. I just don't see how someone arguing the concept of consecutive rings as an argument for GOAT stature can dismiss a guy who won 8 consecutive championships.

    Actually he didn't originally dismiss Bill Russel. Reread Birdys post. He completely ignored Bill Russel as if he didnt exist. Thats embarrassing.

    And my point still stands. If you can't compare Russel's 8 consecutive rings to LeBrons potential of 4 consecutive than you can't compare Jordan's lack of 4 straight with LeBron. Jordan, LeBron and Russel played in three distinctly different eras of basketball. That isnt an opinion. It's a fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdy89 View Post
    Anyone that wants Lebron back needs to start rooting against the Heat.
    Did anyone here ever stop rooting against the Heat?

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