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    Default Re: Quiet, but deadly offseason move by Cavs — Jarrett Jack

    Quote Originally Posted by TyGuy View Post
    I love how jack looks to push the rock instead of slowly trotting it up the court.
    It is what should be going on out there. We have a team composed of mostly young athletic thoroughbreds. We should be looking to wear down our opponents. Tire them out by the 4th quarter.

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    Default Re: Quiet, but deadly offseason move by Cavs — Jarrett Jack

    Mmm so much better than Sloan/Pargo
    Started from the bottom, now we here
    Courtside you would think I was a Cleveland Cavalier
    I’m talking 30000 feet up in the air
    In Dan's leer 30 minutes later all the fans cheer
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    Default Re: Quiet, but deadly offseason move by Cavs — Jarrett Jack

    One of free-agent signings, guard Jarrett Jack pays early dividends for Cavaliers

    By Jason Lloyd
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    Published: October 31, 2013 - 07:07 PM

    When Jarrett Jack entered 4½ minutes into Wednesday’s game, the Cavaliers were already trailing 12-6 and Kyrie Irving was exiting with two fouls. Yet under the steady hand of Jack and the massive stature of Andrew Bynum, the second unit slowed the Brooklyn Nets’ momentum and kept the Cavs in the game.

    That’s the type of role Jack is expected to hold this season — the steady hand and calming influence over a young team that can get scattered, as was evident in the game’s final moments.

    In fact, all of the Cavs’ free-agent acquisitions played a significant role on opening night. Bynum had three points, three rebounds, two blocks, two assists and really impacted the game in only eight minutes; Earl Clark had nine points and eight rebounds, including a huge offensive rebound on the game-winning possession and Jack had 12 points and three assists in 22½ minutes off the bench.

    Coach Mike Brown said no decision has been made regarding Bynum moving forward. The Cavs play back-to-back games this weekend at the Charlotte Bobcats on Friday and at the Indiana Pacers on Saturday.

    Whether Bynum plays in one game or both likely won’t be announced before Friday morning’s shootaround, but Jack’s status is clear.

    “He’s a veteran who has been through a lot of big games,” Brown said. “There’s not much he hasn’t seen. He doesn’t get easily rattled. He’s great to come off the bench because he can change the flow just with his presence alone.”

    During one stretch late in the third quarter, Irving grabbed a defensive rebound and rookie Anthony Bennett quickly launched a 3-pointer at the other end. Anderson Varejao grabbed the offensive rebound and got it back to Irving, but he quickly rushed another shot in the lane.

    After another offensive rebound, the ball was kicked out to Jack well above the 3-point line. Jack put his hand in the air and told everyone to settle down before actually getting into the half-court offense. The Cavs didn’t score (Irving missed another short shot en route to a tough 4-of-16 shooting night), but Jack’s ability to slow down the game was evident.

    Earlier in the quarter, Irving and Tristan Thompson both dived on the court for a loose ball on defense. Irving came up with the steal and quickly called timeout and Jack was the first player off the Cavs’ bench. He walked all the way over to the other side of the court to congratulate both players for their hustle and grit.


    Jack said he learned to keep his composure from playing with veterans like Chauncey Billups and Jason Kidd. It took years for that composure to develop, and now he’s trying to teach it to Irving and Dion Waiters.

    “It came with time,” Jack said. “Going though the ups and downs of this league and figuring out who you are. Once I was able to keep my temperature at an even keel … I think it translated to my play as well.”

    The Cavs’ young backcourt is still trying to figure that out.

    During the crucial possession late in the game, which ended with Varejao making a jumper from the free-throw line to win the game, the Cavs spent the bulk of the possession watching Irving dribble all around the court. He dribbled for 17 seconds before launching a 3-pointer, then after the big rebound from Clark, Irving dribbled around for another 19 seconds before flipping to Varejao before falling down.

    “Everybody is making fun of me today, calling me a Harlem Globetrotter,” Irving said, referring to all of that dribbling. “At the end of the game, I was just trying to look for an opening. I kind of knew their bigs would commit themselves to me. I knew Andy was open at the elbow almost the whole entire game. We had that communication and luckily he made the shot.”

    Waiters spent most of that sequence lingering about 8 feet behind the 3-point line. He never made a move to engage in the play and he never slid into Irving’s line of vision. Just another area where Jack can teach in the future.

    “You don’t understand how he’s gone from team to team to team,” Brown said [Jack has played for six teams in nine years]. “Then when you do your homework on him, you keep hearing, ‘I wish we could’ve kept him.’ He was almost the odd man out in every scenario.

    “You see a guy who is tough, who is about the team, who communicates, makes big plays and makes big shots. You see him and say, ‘I want him to be part of my team.’ ”


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    Default Re: Quiet, but deadly offseason move by Cavs — Jarrett Jack

    He was pretty assy tonight coming off the pick and either firing off a shot or passing to guys ankles.

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    Default Re: Quiet, but deadly offseason move by Cavs — Jarrett Jack

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    He was pretty assy tonight coming off the pick and either firing off a shot or passing to guys ankles.
    I posted upthread how we got to see the "good Jarrett Jack" in the first half of the Nets game. He also was effective in the first half against Charlotte.

    Since then, it has been a struggle. Just not doing the simple things right. He'll get better but it has been frustrating to watch.

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    Default Re: Quiet, but deadly offseason move by Cavs — Jarrett Jack

    I have a problem with Mike Brown pulling his normal Mike Brown stuff and preferring struggling vets over struggling young guys. No reason Jack should have played that whole 4th quarter with the way he was going.
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    I still hold that Kevin Love is a cancer. This team will win 50 without him, it will win 45 with him.

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    Default Re: Quiet, but deadly offseason move by Cavs — Jarrett Jack

    Have to say I haven't been very impressed with Jack. He really hasn't shown the ability to play off the ball and that's a problem with Kyrie and Dion on the team.

    He doesn't use the pick to get anybody an easy shot, only to open up his mid range shot. He's simply looking for his all the time, and I don't see how that meshes with Kyrie or Dion's game.

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    Default Re: Quiet, but deadly offseason move by Cavs — Jarrett Jack

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    Have to say I haven't been very impressed with Jack. He really hasn't shown the ability to play off the ball and that's a problem with Kyrie and Dion on the team.

    He doesn't use the pick to get anybody an easy shot, only to open up his mid range shot. He's simply looking for his all the time, and I don't see how that meshes with Kyrie or Dion's game.
    That's Jarrett Jack. I mean, that's the primary complaint about the guy and was the main thing you'd hear from Warriors fans. I knew that going in, but I was ok with the move because I think he gives Kyrie good guidance and the team a veteran presence that they've lacked, which is a guy who isn't afraid of the moment.
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    I still hold that Kevin Love is a cancer. This team will win 50 without him, it will win 45 with him.

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    Default Re: Quiet, but deadly offseason move by Cavs — Jarrett Jack

    Jack was ass tonight, no doubt about it, but other than that he's been pretty good...

    I mean, are we just gonna bash every single player after every single game? It's a process, folks. An 82 game season. Everyone is going to have their ups and downs. Relax.

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    That's Jarrett Jack. I mean, that's the primary complaint about the guy and was the main thing you'd hear from Warriors fans. I knew that going in, but I was ok with the move because I think he gives Kyrie good guidance and the team a veteran presence that they've lacked, which is a guy who isn't afraid of the moment.
    The problem is our team is full of guys (Kyrie, Dion and Jack) that want to take charge in "the moment", so any semblance of an offensive system falls apart at the end of games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    I mean, are we just gonna bash every single player after every single game?
    Probably?

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    Default Re: Quiet, but deadly offseason move by Cavs — Jarrett Jack

    What I like most about Jack is when Bynum is about to get a post up play, Jack passes the ball to the other side of the court rather than go to him. There's just way too many guards who need the ball. I think the biggest reason for the slow offensive start is the lack of direction on who is the leader. It's like when Ricky Davis was taking the ball out of LeBron James' hands. Eventually Jack, and Waiters need to get neutered and fall into their spot up opportunities rather than try and run offense every time they touch the ball. It's almost like Kyrie becomes the shooting guard. Just complete nonsense going on.
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    Default Re: Quiet, but deadly offseason move by Cavs — Jarrett Jack

    His shot selection is worse than Dion's right now... it's early in the season, but maybe we should delete the word ''deadly'' in the thread title

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    Default Re: Quiet, but deadly offseason move by Cavs — Jarrett Jack

    He sure killed our chances at winning tonight.

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    Default Re: Quiet, but deadly offseason move by Cavs — Jarrett Jack

    The only excuse I think of for his offensive struggles is that he is playing an opposite style from last years up and down western conference style. Still, he's been missing good looks and making some bad decisions. And his defense has been way below average. No excuse for that.

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