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It's cute reading all the contending eastern conference teams' boards right now. How Cleveland played this regular season won't be how Cleveland plays this post-season. So if Cleveland's hiccups thus far make Cleveland appear vulnerable, then please blow your draft pick loads and go all in this season. You'll be right where Cleveland is after LeBron finally calls it quits--rebuilding. You'll have nothing to show for it and no assets.

This underestimation is partially responsible for our championship last season. I hope Golden State also adopts it.. again.
 
After thinking a lot, I can see why Kings ended up trading Boogie. Just copy-pasting what I posted on r/NBA.

There's no doubt that Sacramento Kings are an extremely dysfunctional franchise. Yesterday, when Woj broke the news about Boogie's trade like everyone else my initial reaction was "WTF were Vlade and Vivek smoking when they made this deal?" Almost a day has passed and now that we have heard from all sides, I am wondering if there's a lot more to it than we are willing to see.

Firstly, Dan Feagan who is Boogie's agent has a history of leaking stuffs and rumours like these to force trades. This won't be the first time he has done something like these as well.

Secondly, Woj who broke the news has a great success rate when it comes to Dan Feagan. I don't remember exactly but remember reading an article last year or two years prior about how Dan Feagan uses Woj to leak stuffs to force Kings' hand to trade Boogie.

Also, Vlade said they had a better offer but the team backed out immediately. That anonymous team would have most likely contacted Dan Feagan to ask if Boogie was willing to sign an extension there and would have probably been told he won't which would have made them back out.

Last but not the least, Woj's hit pieces on Kings have already started. I mean seriously, why wouldn't a franchise who is going to trade its best player pick up their phone? Just seems a smear campaign. Not that Kings have been classy either with their local broadcaster and all saying Boogie was a bad influence and how no teammates of his liked to play with him.

We all can agree that Kings did a terrible job of providing the help for Boogie. They drafted very poorly and surrounded him with some average players with no veteran presence in the locker room to guide a young player like Boogie. But I find it bizarre that Kings would give away possibly their best player in the last 15 years for so less unless they were tired with his bullshit and didn't want to commit the humongous max contract which Boogie would have demanded next summer in 2018. They probably felt this was their best opportunity to cash in on Boogie and they did. Doesn't change the fact that it was still a bad trade but if we add context and other things to it, in a way, it makes sense why Kings did this. They anyways sucked with Boogie. Probably start fresh altogether and see what they do!
 
The Red Viper said:
After thinking a lot, I can see why Kings ended up trading Boogie. Just copy-pasting what I posted on r/NBA.
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The problem is the lack of foresight.

Cousins is a franchise player; and with the new CBA in place, his contract right now is gold -- even with his pending free agency.

For the Kings to make the decision that they did, how they did, and when they did is where the problem arises.

It's not that it was foolish to trade Cousins; but that it was foolish to trade him for Buddy Hield and a mid-first. There are numerous teams that would have offered more, and according to the Kings, better offers had come and gone. They acted precipitously, and without any obvious degree of foresight on their part.

It's as though they changed their minds at the last minute - panicked - then slammed the "OMFG" button and traded Cousins instantly.

That's not how this should have been handled, and the team should have known they were open to trading him before the season even started. Moreover, what was the rush? Cousins was willing to sign an extension; he wasn't going anywhere, even if you were forced to hold his contract for a year.

It was just an absurd move by the Kings. They didn't think this through.
 
gourimoko said:
The problem is the lack of foresight.

Cousins is a franchise player; and with the new CBA in place, his contract right now is gold -- even with his pending free agency.

For the Kings to make the decision that they did, how they did, and when they did is where the problem arises.

It's not that it was foolish to trade Cousins; but that it was foolish to trade him for Buddy Hield and a mid-first. There are numerous teams that would have offered more, and according to the Kings, better offers had come and gone. They acted precipitously, and without any obvious degree of foresight on their part.

It's as though they changed their minds at the last minute - panicked - then slammed the "OMFG" button and traded Cousins instantly.

That's not how this should have been handled, and the team should have known they were open to trading him before the season even started. Moreover, what was the rush? Cousins was willing to sign an extension; he wasn't going anywhere, even if you were forced to hold his contract for a year.

It was just an absurd move by the Kings. They didn't think this through.
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Agreed Gouri.

I think they should have traded him last year itself.

But if they were going to trade him ultimately, this was the year imo.

There were rumours about how a lot of teams were skeptical about Boogie because of his attitude and the few who were interested didn't want to give that many assets. The few who did end up giving a better deal than what Pelicans offered backed out immediately which I am assuming happened after they talked with Boogie's agent. I doubt they would have got a better offer next year than this.

Also, heir own pick is a Top-10 protected. If they kept Boogie, the chances of them getting a Top-10 pick would have been very less. They have a much better chance of getting back that pick.

Its a bad deal still. I am not denying that but I think a lot of other stuffs like Boogie's attitude, Dan Feagan being a cunt etc have to be factored in as well imo.
 
Shame what the media has done to Cousins rep while actual criminals like Green get praised. Dude was fighting back tears talking to the fans tonight never gets in trouble but he's the cancer. That idiot think Hield is Curry


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Jscc said:
It's cute reading all the contending eastern conference teams' boards right now. How Cleveland played this regular season won't be how Cleveland plays this post-season. So if Cleveland's hiccups thus far make Cleveland appear vulnerable, then please blow your draft pick loads and go all in this season. You'll be right where Cleveland is after LeBron finally calls it quits--rebuilding. You'll have nothing to show for it and no assets.

This underestimation is partially responsible for our championship last season. I hope Golden State also adopts it.. again.
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EVERYBODY underestimates us. We finally got the respect we deserved for what, three weeks? The second the Warriors snatched Durant, we immediately became the underdogs again. Whatever, man. Let them continue to underestimate. I know it fuels LeBron like no other.
 
randymoss1881 said:
Shame what the media has done to Cousins rep while actual criminals like Green get praised. Dude was fighting back tears talking to the fans tonight never gets in trouble but he's the cancer. That idiot think Hield is Curry


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Is Cousins really that misunderstood by the general NBA fan, randy? I'm not trying to put you on the spot so apologies if this comes off as skeptical but I just have a hard time thinking that the narrative around Cousins is complete bullshit, there has to be something that he's done that feeds into it.

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gourimoko said:
It's not that it was foolish to trade Cousins; but that it was foolish to trade him for Buddy Hield and a mid-first. There are numerous teams that would have offered more, and according to the Kings, better offers had come and gone. They acted precipitously, and without any obvious degree of foresight on their part.
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From what I've heard it just sounds like the Kings were stuck between a rock and a hard place. They weren't comfortable giving Boogie the 200 mil and the market for him was simply not as good as his talent seemingly warranted. In my view it seems like the Kings were comitted to hitting the reset button on the franchise and move on from DMC, no matter how incomfortable it was going to be. It just turned out to be more uncomfortable than a lot of people were actually expecting.

Mind you, I do agree that the Kings front office have displayed what can only be described as gross ineptitude time and time again and that is definitely part of the reason that they ended up in such a shitty situation. I just don't see how they necessarily could have played it any better if they were comitted to getting rid of Boogie, which it seems they were.
 
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