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You can hear a pin drop in today's attendance :chuckle:

27th early on, no wonder Cubs fans took this stadium by storm.

Don't blame me. I have 2 seats to every other home game. Those seats will be filled.
 
You can hear a pin drop in today's attendance :chuckle:

27th early on, no wonder Cubs fans took this stadium by storm.

I wonder if 8pm starts would yield more people? Or maybe once Edwin's BA climbs closer to .230 things will heat right on up.
 
Don't blame me. I have 2 seats to every other home game. Those seats will be filled.
Nice, I make my way there in the low 20's package. Pretty much every giveaway and a few premium games. Make sure you build those tribe rewards up!! Nothing like that batting practice perk.
 
I wonder if 8pm starts would yield more people? Or maybe once Edwin's BA climbs closer to .250 things will heat right on up.
I thought they start at 6pm to cater to folks for more time in sun if it's cold, I guess April is just a shit month.
 
I thought they start at 6pm to cater to folks for more time in sun if it's cold, I guess April is just a shit month.

April weekdays will always suck. Even when they were sold out, the attendance wasn't that high.

6 is better for the downtown crowd. 7 is better for the suburb crowd. 8 is worse for everyone.

It also doesn't help the TV appearance when half the crowd is in The Corner, but tonight was a blast.
 
I don't know if anyone shared this, but, I thought it was a good article about Salazar, his changeup, and pitch movement.

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...ans-danny-salazar-becoming-ace-sound-familiar

Almost 30 percent of ESPN's baseball experts picked Cleveland to win the World Series this year, and for an easy-to-explain reason: The Indians came within one run of winning it last year without the injured Danny Salazar and Carlos Carrasco in their postseason rotation. This year, the thinking went, those two are healthy -- the Indians' playoff rotation will be nasty.

Carrasco is doing his part to make the predictions look smart. In four starts entering Friday night, he had allowed only five runs. Last Saturday he went eight scoreless innings against the White Sox. By the advanced pitching metrics at Baseball Prospectus, he has been the third-most valuable pitcher in baseball this year.

But the day after Carrasco's near-shutout, Salazar allowed four hits and two walks in the first inning against Chicago. He took the loss, his ERA swelling to 4.37.




What has Cleveland done to fix its pitching? Well, nothing
The worst rotation ERA in baseball -- from a staff that pitched into November. The Indians could have panicked when their starters stumbled early. Why were they so confident things would improve?



What might surprise you, then, is that Salazar appears right alongside Carrasco near the top of those advanced leaderboards. At BP, Salazar's deserved run average -- an ERA-like metric that takes into account everything from the quality of his opponents to the defense behind him to the weather -- is a minuscule 1.09, the eighth-lowest in baseball this young season.

DRA isn't alone. At Baseball-Reference, Salazar's 2.02 FIP would be a career best by more than a run -- and ranks eighth among all starters this year. He's 10th on FanGraphs' wins above replacement leaderboard. He's leading the majors in strikeout rate, almost a full strikeout per nine innings better than the all-time. And 38 percent of swings against him have come up empty, the highest whiff rate of any starter in baseball.

Put it all together, and we are watching the long-awaited breakout by one of the game's most powerful arms, the midcareer blossoming of a true ace. Or else we're watching the continuing frustration of an often-unhittable pitcher who perpetually seems one adjustment away from actually fulfilling his promise.

Salazar packs an extraordinary amount of gunpowder into his right arm. He's listed at 6 feet, though is a shade under. He survived Tommy John surgery in 2010. He dealt with shoulder fatigue, elbow inflammation and a forearm strain in 2016. And he's 27, an age by which most flamethrowers have already lost some velocity (or moved to the bullpen). But he has maintained his mid-90s fastball. Only 16 starters have thrown harder this year.

Some days that's enough, but Salazar has always been just shy of a headliner. He has, for instance, the eighth-best strikeout rate in baseball -- just behind Stephen Strasburg and Noah Syndergaard -- since debuting in 2013, yet he has never struck out even a dozen in a game. He has averaged only 5.7 innings per start -- just behind Tom Koehler and Edinson Volquez -- and has completed only one game.

But this year he has made adjustments. Three, primarily, and all were in play in the loss Sunday -- when he followed up the bad first inning by striking out eight of the next 17 batters, allowing just two more hits.

1. He is throwing more changeups than ever.
Last June, ESPN's Mark Simon made the case that Salazar's changeup -- a pitch he learned from "a random guy" at a Little League game when Salazar was 8 -- was the most valuable pitch in baseball. One way to try to make it more valuable would be to throw it even more often, and he has.

In his first start this year, Salazar threw changeups on 38 percent of his pitches, the second-highest rate in any start in his career. The next time out, he threw a career-high 42 percent. In the past two, he's thrown 26 percent changeups, still well above his 18.5 rate last year. On Sunday, he threw at least one changeup in every count except for 3-0 and 3-2.

The extra frequency hasn't cost the pitch effectiveness, as he throws it for a strike three-quarters of the time and gets whiffs on 37 percent of swings against it. But more importantly, and perhaps relatedly, is that every other pitch he throws has become more effective. Here's the percentage of swings against each of his pitches that have come up empty, by year:

his nine Ks Sunday came on a changeup.

2. He is throwing with more movement than ever.
Salazar throws three nonbreaking pitches -- four-seam fastball, two-seam fastball and changeup -- and all three are moving more this year than they ever have before, by about an inch per pitch more than last year and two inches more than in previous years. This doesn't guarantee a good outcome -- it might make the pitches harder to command, or bring his pitches back into the middle of the strike zone -- but the average exit velocity against Salazar has dropped from 91 mph last year (and 89 mph in 2015) to 87 mph this year.

3. He has lowered his release point, and his release points for each type of pitch are more tightly clustered.
See here what that looks like:

Tim Anderson -- who entered the game hitting .159/.172/.222 -- Salazar threw an 0-2 changeup. Anderson could actually catch up to that one, and he doubled to lead off the game.

Or, consider Salazar's matchups against Avisail Garcia. In the third inning, Garcia got a first-pitch changeup in the zone. He grounded into a double play. The next time up, Salazar threw the same pitch twice more, in similar locations. On the second, Garcia doubled off the top of the wall to bring a run in.


The extra movement on his pitches seems great, but maybe it's also why he's grooving (slightly) more changeups and four-seamers this year, as pitches he starts on the edge of the plate tail into the middle of the zone. And if the movement is due to his lower release point, it might be an accident. Salazar's release points for different pitches have been tightly clustered this year, but from start to start those clusters have varied quite a bit. From an optimistic angle, it looks like Salazar made a smart adjustment. But from another -- the fool-me-twice angle -- Salazar looks like a pitcher with a history of wildness struggling to stay consistent with his release point.

When Mark Simon wrote about Salazar last June, Salazar had a 2.23 ERA. Simon quoted a scout talking about Salazar's excellent first half: "You could see this coming last year," the scout said. But Salazar walked five that night. His ERA during the rest of the season was 6.19, his home run rate doubled and his sub-6-foot body with the gunpowder arm broke down. That's always been the thing with Salazar, ever since he hit 99 in his major league debut: You could always see it coming, and sometimes you were even sure you'd seen it arrive, but he never really got it there. There sure is a lot of evidence saying this year is different.
 
Some numbers to keep an eye on as we enter May:

Brantley's K-rate:

While he's been raking, and putting up numbers reminiscent of his 3rd place MVP season, he's also posted a K% that's nearly double his career rate, and nearly 2.5x what it was back in 2014/15.

Flat out, Brantley is swinging and missing more than ever before. In 2015, he swung at 42.8% of the pitches he saw, a career high at the time. This year he's swinging at 47.7% of the pitches he sees. A pretty substantial increase considering he was between 40.6% and 42.8% during his last 4 full seasons. He's chasing a few more pitches than usual, but he's also being more aggressive within the strike zone as well.

Last time we saw Brantley playing well, he made contact with 84.6% of the pitches he swung at that were outside of the strike zone, he's over 81% for his career as well. This season, he sits at just 65.9%, by far a career low.

Within the strike zone he has been maddeningly consistent throughout his career, never lower than 95.7%, and never higher than 96.3% covering 7 seasons. This year he's seen that dip to 91.9%.

Overall, his contact rate has dropped from 92.6% to 84.5% (he has never been below 90% before). Thus, his swinging strike rate has gone from 3.1% to 7.3%.

Fortunately, this drop in contact has been masked by career highs in Isolated Power, BABIP, and HR/FB ratio. Some of those numbers are surely going to drop closer to his career averages, and hopefully he starts making more contact along the way as well. It's fantastic to see Brantley back, and contributing at a high level, but he's doing it in a way we've never seen him do before. It will be interesting to see whether this is the new Brantley, or if he trends back toward his career numbers.

Our starters:

Kluber, 17.1%
Carrasco, 17.2%
Salazar, 10.7%
Tomlin, 16.7%
Bauer, 20.8%

Those are the current HR/FB ratios of our rotation. Salazar is actually coming in below his career rate, and Tomlin is pretty much in line with what he's done the last few years. The others have seen fairly substantial increases in their HR/FB ratio, Kluber and Bauer especially. With hitters placing more emphasis than ever before on getting the ball into the air, and each of our pitchers posting high FB rates than last year, it's important to get these numbers down. They surely will, as it's rare to see such substantial increases become the new normal, so we should see our rotation become even more successful as the season goes on.

Tomlin, and Bauer have each been victims of some pretty poor luck so far, and some unsustainable numbers. For his career Tomlin leaves about 68% of his baserunners stranded, not a great number by any means, but this year it's all the way down to 50%. As that normalizes, we should see Tomlin return to form as the useful back-end starter he's been in recent years. Bauer typically stands 71% of baserunners, this year that's dropped to 63%. Not as big of a drop as Tomlin's, but still a huge drop. Along with his HR/FB ratio, Bauer should see his numbers trend for the better as the season progresses.

Cody Allen:

He is currently striking out 50% of the batters he faces, coming out to 18 K/9. His walk rate is down to 2.5% from his career rate of 9.3%. While his ERA is a sterling 0.90, his FIP is -0.68 due to his bad luck in having a .526 BABIP against him. He's been the best reliever in baseball so far this year. These numbers are not sustainable, but we're seeing Cody Allen pitching at his very best, picking up where he left off in last year's postseason, and it should be appreciated.
 
Some numbers to keep an eye on as we enter May:

Brantley's K-rate:

While he's been raking, and putting up numbers reminiscent of his 3rd place MVP season, he's also posted a K% that's nearly double his career rate, and nearly 2.5x what it was back in 2014/15.

Flat out, Brantley is swinging and missing more than ever before. In 2015, he swung at 42.8% of the pitches he saw, a career high at the time. This year he's swinging at 47.7% of the pitches he sees. A pretty substantial increase considering he was between 40.6% and 42.8% during his last 4 full seasons. He's chasing a few more pitches than usual, but he's also being more aggressive within the strike zone as well.

Awesome post.

Is this potentially a side effect of better lineup protection?

He's never had this much hitting stacked behind him, so I'd be curious if his swing rate is a direct result of seeing a higher percentage of pitches in the zone. He feels like he can take more hacks knowing a pitcher can't be as selective with EE, Ramirez and Kip behind him?

Would like the contact % to trend up but if he maintains power without the OBP taking a drastic dip, that would seem like a huge plus for the lineup. Santana and Lindor are getting on, so seeing Brantley be more aggressive, trying to be a run producer makes sense to me.
 
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Awesome post.

Is this potentially a side effect of better lineup protection?

He's never had this much hitting stacked behind him, so I'd be curious if his swing rate is a direct result of seeing a higher percentage of pitches in the zone. He feels like he can take more hacks knowing a pitcher can't be a selective with EE, Ramirez and Kip behind him?

Would like the contact % to trend up but if he maintains power without the OBP taking a drastic dip, that would seem like a huge plus for the lineup. Santana and Lindor are getting on, so seeing Brantley be more aggressive, trying to be a run producer makes sense to me.

Possibly, but the increase in whiffs/K's along with an increase in him chasing pitches out of the zone aren't really accounted for in that theory. It's not really likely that he maintains such a drastic shift in the power numbers that I mentioned, so he'll need to improve his contact numbers in order to sustain his level of success.

Odds are, after basically a full year off, his eye isn't quite up to speed. So, even though his swing is right back where it needs to be, he's not seeing the ball as well yet.
 
I haven't had the chance to watch as many games as I would like to start the season, but can someone clue me in on Edwin's struggles? Also how do we feel about the starting pitching? Doesnt seem to be clicking to start the year.
 
I haven't had the chance to watch as many games as I would like to start the season, but can someone clue me in on Edwin's struggles? Also how do we feel about the starting pitching? Doesnt seem to be clicking to start the year.

Edwin always sucks in April. He's pretty much on pace to do what he always does. The starting pitching has been fine. Kluber got knocked around once, but has been great otherwise, Carrasco has been awesome, and Salazar has been solid. Bauer and Tomlin have each had some bad luck, and both have struggled with runners on. Bauer is actually throwing the ball pretty well, and is walking fewer guys than ever before. Tomlin's numbers also suggest that his numbers will soon normalize, as he hasn't thrown the ball nearly as poorly as his raw numbers suggest.
 
The thing is we made it to game 7 of the World Series without Brantley and he is playing like his old self for the most part with his batting average and everything else. This type of production in a sense may not be what he normally does when to BBs and SOs, but I could care less with a .308 avg, .551 SLG% and batting in front of EE.

EE and Santana are usually slow starters which tells me that this team isn't even done progressing since a mendoza line EE will eventually start hitting and Ramirez hitting .300 again, this could be the year they win it all, they have nothing holding them back.

They are top 10 in baseball as a team in almost every category in hitting and that is without Kipnis hitting, EE and Santana's slow starts and Lindor leading the team in HRs, which you know at the end of the season EE and Santana aren't going to allow that to happen. They are number 5 in SOs as a pitching staff and number 3 in the least amount of walks as a pitching staff. They are number 13 in ERA, but last time I looked they were like 22nd, this is a top 5 pitching staff and could be a top 5 offense as well. I said they would win 100 games plus, and I know it's April, but this team is usually a slow starting team and has been under Francona for awhile. This may be the best team the Indians have ever had rivaling that 94/95 team.

Gomes has been hitting .333 since April 17 and getting guys like him hitting, would make this lineup very deep, but eventually opposing pitchers will stop throwing at his ankles where he kills the ball
 
@sportscoach the point of me posting Brantley's numbers, and bringing up his increased swings and misses isn't to say his current production isn't great. It's to say that it probably isn't sustainable unless he starts making contact at a higher rate.
 

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