2019 Browns Head Coach Candidates

[buzzdog]

This wasn't a two year plan for the rebuild. In ways that are a little self serving, the front office did a deep clean of veterans and invested in future assets for two straight years. Hue was on board for the understanding that he gets a longer leash for joining an unorthodox front office. Judging Hue's success for the front office decisions to rebuild differently is a mistake.

THANK YOU!

Why do so many people fail to see this? It doesn't mean Hugh is a lock to turn into a Super Bowl winning head coach or even a competent head coach to say this. He might truly suck as bad as it looks at this particular moment. But things might not be quite as bad as they look as well.

The team is in a full tailspin and it's completely on Hugh to pull them out of it. It's on Hugh to get the team looking like they belong on the field and currently they don't. and the major part of this is because of our shitty quarterback play.

Like you have said, not keeping a playable veteran around to give Kizer some breathing room to develop is and was a mistake and it seems that is on the front office since they control the roster. Not keeping Kessler available to play is on Hugh. Both Hugh and the front office share some of the responsibility for how lack of simple competence at the QB position has made our team look like more of a joke than they really are.

 

[Phills14]

Agree with the above @buzzdog

Also, it's Hue

 

[Soda]

 

[Triple-S]

Should have never been fired. I wonder where we’d be right now if he was still here.

I think he and Mangini were the biggest mistakes in regards to people being fired.

You replaced Mangini, a hard worker, one that generally was pretty innovative with a guy like Pat Shurmer. That's a net loss.

One could also argue that the Butch Davis/Bruce Arians/Foge Fazio combo was also great, but that was pretty much destroyed by Butch refusing to get a GM/listen to a GM.

 

[Amherstcavsfan]

JMO, but Hue has done plenty to get himself fired that does not relate to talent. Most importantly, he has made it incredibly hard on his young QBs by not simplifying the game for them.

 

[buzzdog]

JMO, but Hue has done plenty to get himself fired that does not relate to talent. Most importantly, he has made it incredibly hard on his young QBs by not simplifying the game for them.

I can agree Hue should have simplified the offense and found ways to make things a little easier on Kizer. But that is a 2 edged sword and now that Kizer has made it this far we should probably stay the course. When Hogan runs the offense it looks like he has guys to throw to, but he lacks the accuracy to make the throws. So it's not completely on the scheme, Kizer isn't finding the right guys to throw to and he hasn't gotten his timing down on when he should be looking for certain receivers on the route tree.

Both Kizer and Hogan have gotten flustered and tried to do too much at critical times. The interceptions in the red zone aren't so much Hue's fault, the blame for these has to go on the 2 quarterbacks. Take those red zone interceptions away and we might be looking at this season completely differently. I think we'd have 2 wins but for the back breaking turnovers. Those aren't on Hue, those are the players failing to execute basic winning football.

 

[brownindian]

Should have never been fired. I wonder where we’d be right now if he was still here.

Much better than where we are for sure !

 

[Triple-S]

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jesus fucking christ jimmy....

 

[batdan]

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[CBBI]

Latest from LaCanfora...

At that time, the 49ers approached the Browns about potentially trading the coach, who was nearing the end of his contract and had no long-term prospects in San Francisco due to strained interpersonal relationships with ownership and management, as was widely reported at the time. Browns owner Jimmy Haslam was enamored with the prospect of adding Harbaugh and, according to a source with knowledge of the situation, agreed to send two third-round picks to the 49ers for him, and offered the coach a five-year, $40 million contract to coach the Browns.

Harbaugh balked at going to Cleveland, which was in turmoil, at the time and believed he would have a multitude of options open to him if he played out his situation in San Francisco. The Browns have continued to sink since, though sources said Haslam remains enamored with the head coach -- who has a history of developing quarterbacks -- and with the Browns headed to a possible first overall pick and possibly two picks in the top 10, the job could be more attractive to Harbaugh come this winter should he be open to the opportunity. Other coaches and executives have noted as well that the Browns could be the only -- or one of very few -- situations this offseason where an individual could possibly gain full football authority to rework the coaching staff and football operations staff as he sees fit, with Haslam in a desperate situation.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...interest-if-he-sought-coaching-return-to-nfl/

 

[Ohio]

Sign me up for that.

 

[Juice is Loose]

I was listening to a Pardon My Take on Friday and they interviewed Peter King. They asked him about Hue and if he’s safe. Peter said that he spoke with Jimmy in August and he told him he does not want to tear everything down again. He wants stability. Peter thinks Hue ends up staying. With Sashi he isn’t sure. Again, that was a conversation in August but I do remember Jimmy at Hue’s intro press conference saying they talked to other teams in other sports and stability was a huge thing for them.

 

[natedagg]

I was listening to a Pardon My Take on Friday and they interviewed Peter King. They asked him about Hue and if he’s safe. Peter said that he spoke with Jimmy in August and he told him he does not want to tear everything down again. He wants stability. Peter thinks Hue ends up staying. With Sashi he isn’t sure. Again, that was a conversation in August but I do remember Jimmy at Hue’s intro press conference saying they talked to other teams in other sports and stability was a huge thing for them.

I like stability and think ultimately the winning won't happen until we've stabilized. That said, you can't pass on a proven winning NFL coach (e.g. - Harbaugh) for Mr. 1-23. I hope we "look around" and reach out to various better options WHILE Hue is still our coach, and THEN if we have one in place and the everything has been negotiated, we can fire Hue with an immediate plan.

I am not sure about the idea of just firing Hue and then conducting interviews. Frankly it seems to me that we're not a bad place to coach at: the bar is so low, it's on the damn ground, we have draft capital, and we've got a young & talented defense, with major $ to spend in FA. I know this sounds crazy, but to me, if we sign Cousins, how are we not suddenly a VERY attractive team to play for and coach for?

 

[The Wizard of Moz]

I was listening to a Pardon My Take on Friday and they interviewed Peter King. They asked him about Hue and if he’s safe. Peter said that he spoke with Jimmy in August and he told him he does not want to tear everything down again. He wants stability. Peter thinks Hue ends up staying. With Sashi he isn’t sure. Again, that was a conversation in August but I do remember Jimmy at Hue’s intro press conference saying they talked to other teams in other sports and stability was a huge thing for them.

Well fuck a duck if we end up canning the front office and keeping Hue we will have reached levels of incompetence I didn’t even think were possible

 

[FrontPageNews]

Latest from LaCanfora...

At that time, the 49ers approached the Browns about potentially trading the coach, who was nearing the end of his contract and had no long-term prospects in San Francisco due to strained interpersonal relationships with ownership and management, as was widely reported at the time. Browns owner Jimmy Haslam was enamored with the prospect of adding Harbaugh and, according to a source with knowledge of the situation, agreed to send two third-round picks to the 49ers for him, and offered the coach a five-year, $40 million contract to coach the Browns.

Harbaugh balked at going to Cleveland, which was in turmoil, at the time and believed he would have a multitude of options open to him if he played out his situation in San Francisco. The Browns have continued to sink since, though sources said Haslam remains enamored with the head coach -- who has a history of developing quarterbacks -- and with the Browns headed to a possible first overall pick and possibly two picks in the top 10, the job could be more attractive to Harbaugh come this winter should he be open to the opportunity. Other coaches and executives have noted as well that the Browns could be the only -- or one of very few -- situations this offseason where an individual could possibly gain full football authority to rework the coaching staff and football operations staff as he sees fit, with Haslam in a desperate situation.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...interest-if-he-sought-coaching-return-to-nfl/

I wonder if pep has been in his ear telling him how terrible it is here. That could be a large factor against us.