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He really is a LOT like Michael Vick. People were hesitant to make the comparison at first when he came onto the scene last year, but it's the only comparison to make. Their unique skillsets are incredibly similar.
But I agree with @The Wizard of Moz in that he's a pretty big risk. He could flop spectacularly which would be tough to swallow given Derwin James will be sitting there waiting to feast on NFL offenses for the next 15 years.
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The fact that he is a runner who can pass
I just don't understand how many electric runners we have to see get beaten to hell and then have a shelf life more similar to RBs than QBs
It happened with RG3, it happened with Kaep, it'll happen with Watson. Watson is electric now. I'll be willing to bet in 5 years he won't be a starter.
This shit isn't hard guys. Don't pick the QBs who rely on their legs to be special. It's great he has a strong arm. It's great some think he could be a pocket QB. But he's not
Also I hated the Kizer pick so I'd say Kizer's bust rate is higher than Jacksons
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But how is he more of a flop than any QB in this draft and last years draft? The only QB who looked like he was ready to play from day one was Watson. If people think Lamar is high risk I'd be interested to know how they feel about Mahomes and Trubisky. How are they not bigger risk than Lamar? Lamar Jackson has a better arm than both and is a bigger threat to the defense. Again he will make life difficult for the opposing defense. Trubisky won a game completing 4 passes. He does nothing to put the defense on edge. Watson does and Lamar is more dangerous than Watson.
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I also didn't think jack shit to Trubisky or Mahommes
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Not sure it's any higher than those guys, but it's high for a couple reasons. One, he runs around a lot, more than he needs to. Two, Louisville doesn't really run any kind of system...it's just "Go, Lamar!"...Lamar sort of joked a couple years ago about not having a playbook, but the vast majority believe it to be true.
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Woah dere. Nice to see Ben made a filter for the N bomb.
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Dude. 14 teams have QB's who can make plays with their legs. Unless you're a future HOF QB or have a stout running game then I could argue that your QB needs to be mobile. And he's not a runner who can pass. He's a passer who runs better than anyone else. Where are these pocket QB's at in the draft who stay in the pocket and carve up defenses? The first four QB's taken in last years draft are all QB's who are mobile. Guys who can get outside the pocket to make throws and guys who can evade the defense and extend plays.
I hope you aren't trying to pencil Lamar in as a gimmick QB. He's better at playing QB than any of the other QB's in this draft. He makes life tough for the defense. He's opens up your playbook. Think of how dynamic he makes your offense. There's always going to be concerns about you QB getting hurt when he runs but with half the teams in the league having mobile QB's you're going the wrong way avoiding one.
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You probably did by mistake, and meant to write "bigger"
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The last 2 QBs that I remember saying
"Woah, that's the guy. Tank for him"
Were Winston and Goff. They don't come around every year
I actually really love watching Lamar play. Probably my favorite player in college football to watch
But last year the dude had 409 pass attempts and..... 260 rushing attempts
That is INSANE
There's a giant difference between a QB able to make plays with his legs and a guy running the ball 20+ times a game
"Woah, that's the guy. Tank for him"
Were Winston and Goff. They don't come around every year
I actually really love watching Lamar play. Probably my favorite player in college football to watch
But last year the dude had 409 pass attempts and..... 260 rushing attempts
That is INSANE
There's a giant difference between a QB able to make plays with his legs and a guy running the ball 20+ times a game
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Wowwwwww you're right. I thought I did write bigger. I didn't even read it after I posted it. Just looked at the keyboard and noticed that the b and the n are right next to each other right now. I looked after you posted it and it didn't make sense when I read it. Dang. My apologies. I didn't know we even had a n word filter.
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I agree but I think the threat of him running which I think he'll be the best running QB as soon as he enters the league, will benefit his passing game. And it's not really just the scrambling. He better than anyone at avoiding pressure in the pocket. He can get outside the pocket to make throws. The thing with Lamar is behind this offensive line and with an actual good RB our offense just became dynamic. Now the defense will have to account for a good RB and a QB who they can't contain.
