2019 Cavs

[The Human Q-Tip]

I think Hood suffered from us not having a second guard who could attack the paint and suck in the defense.

Maybe so, but we fans already suffered enough from watching Hood himself suck in the defense....

 

[6.19.2016]

I like that term "I-77 Bowl".
I might just kauf tickets to the 12/5 game against Golden Piss just so I can boo Donkeylips in person

Thanks, wasn't sure how much it would catch on. The two cities have some similarities, and it seems like a disproportionate number of NE Ohioans relocate to the Carolinas.

Second GS game in April might set a Vegas record for biggest line of the season. Back-to-back for us and not them and toward the end of a brutal West trip - we could be 20 point underdogs.

 

[6.19.2016]

I think Hood suffered from us not having a second guard who could attack the paint and suck in the defense. Him and G Hill are a terrible fit. I do like him in the starting lineup. I can see Sexton's penetration really opening up the perimeter for him to get cleaner looks.

Starters:

Sexton
Hood
Cedi
Love
Zizic

Bench:
Hill
Clarkson
Nwaba/Korver
Nance
Frye

There's simply zero minutes on this team for TT & Jr any longer. Talk about deadweight. Damn!

Lue will make sure Dashian and Cap'n Hennessey get their minutes, for "trade value," or something.

 

[Milio25]

I don't know where people are saying that Hill and Hood would be bad together? If you look at any Hood highlight tape, yes he does spot a few times, but his best stuff is in creation. Hill is a guy who help him create on and off the ball. Also, with Nance, Love, and Zizic running pick plays (pop, slide, roll), Hood and Hill will both be deadly.

If I was running things (which I'm not), here's my dream.
Hill
Hood
Cedi
Love
Nance

--Nance has a bit more of an ability to space the floor and allow Love to get a foothold down low on offense. Also, Nance has a bit more of an ability (right now) to get good finishes on pick and pops and pick and rolls with Hood, Hill, and Cedi. Zizic will find his way to starting if he can consistently produce, but I think that Nance is only beginning to scratch the surface of his talent.


Sexton
Clarkson
Smith/Nwaba
Dekker
Zizic

I realize how small my second team is, but I think that JR will be a defensive sub and that Dekker will get minutes if he proves himself. This team will get buckets, especially with JR sitting in a corner like Korver. Clarkson, Sexton, and Dekker can all create off of the dribble against lower talent, which would make them perfect for the second team. These guys can also all run, which will be what Lue wants to do.

Frye/Korver/TT These guys will be end of the benchers and coaches for the young guns. If Lue is truly taking the reigns of his team "back" from LeBron, then he will be running and gunning like the Clippers of old. These lineups will leave Frye, TT and Korver out but for hot shot minutes. I think Frye was signed as a future coach, and a mentor.

It will be really telling what happens in camp, because we have a bunch of hungry, young guns. I think we all assume that Cedi will start, and we all want Zizic to get minutes, but Lue might still go with his vets that he feels comfortable with. That would really suck for us who like to see young guys develop through getting minutes, but Lue has always favored vets.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

I don't know where people are saying that Hill and Hood would be bad together?

It's more like Hood and anyone would be bad together.

 

[CleveRocks]

I dont think anyone would object to hood starting at the two if he played to his ability. The objection is that he plays soft and selectively on defense.. the rest of the animus is his expectation to get a brinks truck contract he has not earned, which does not indicate he has the self awareness he needs to make corrections

 

[Cavatt]

I dont think anyone would object to hood starting at the two if he played to his ability. The objection is that he plays soft and selectively on defense.. the rest of the animus is his expectation to get a brinks truck contract he has not earned, which does not indicate he has the self awareness he needs to make corrections

My worry is that starting 2 is the only place he fits unless he can play backup sf. I'm not to optimistic because he basically needs a QO and then a min contract to wake up and start fixing the holes in his game so he can be a positive contributor when he is 30.

 

[TitleTown]

My worry is that starting 2 is the only place he fits unless he can play backup sf. I'm not to optimistic because he basically needs a QO and then a min contract to wake up and start fixing the holes in his game so he can be a positive contributor when he is 30.

I still just don't see how Hood fits on our team...at all.

At least Clarkson gives solid effort and can fill the backup PG role.

The only reason we're keeping Hood around is to pray that some other GM bites at the trade deadline and gives us a 2nd round pick or two for him. Or, he can function as trade filler with "potential" to sweeten a deal based on another player or two (Hill, JR, TT, etc).

 

[inliner311]

My worry is that starting 2 is the only place he fits unless he can play backup sf. I'm not to optimistic because he basically needs a QO and then a min contract to wake up and start fixing the holes in his game so he can be a positive contributor when he is 30.

I also think starting SG is Hood's spot but then it's start Sexton or Hill. I'd prefer just to start Sexton with Hood, Cedi, Love, and Zizic/Nance so that we can keep the starting lineup fairly stable thru out the whole year.

The question of trade value for Hill, JR, and Korver comes into play. How much do their trade values take a hit coming off the bench and playing with Clarkson.

I've said this a couple times, I think Clarkson creates more problems for the rotation than anyone else to start the season. Trade value and proper development are what we want from the current roster, Clarkson doesn't help with either of those. I would seriously think about not playing him until we move Hill, JR, and/or Korver.

 

[JMoneyYourHoney]

I still just don't see how Hood fits on our team...at all.

Like, how? He's a no-brainer to slot in as a starting 2 next to Sexton. Are you seriously going to argue that Hill, JR and Korver are better fits than him?

We need to hit the reset button, which means getting rid of all 3 of those guys ASAP.

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

Like, how? He's a no-brainer to slot in as a starting 2 next to Sexton. Are you seriously going to argue that Hill, JR and Korver are better fits than him?

We need to hit the reset button, which means getting rid of all 3 of those guys ASAP.

Explain why we need to get rid of Korver and even Hill asap?

 

[JMoneyYourHoney]

Explain why we need to get rid of Korver and even Hill asap?

Well I'm not going to argue with somebody who feels that we should inflate their value before trading them; my reasoning for trading them sooner is so we can get a jump-start on developing our younger guys, particularly Sexton.

Whether it's now or later, those guys need to go. My overall point is: how can anybody make a case for Hill, JR and Korver being better "fits" for this team than Hood???

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Like, how? He's a no-brainer to slot in as a starting 2 next to Sexton. Are you seriously going to argue that Hill, JR and Korver are better fits than him?

We need to hit the reset button, which means getting rid of all 3 of those guys ASAP.

JR, I'll give you. He and Hood both share the common problem of not playing the game the "right" way in terms of even marginally consistent effort on both ends.

Korver and Hill both, in general, play the game the right way. They know their roles on both sides of the ball. Because of that, they both serve as stabilizing/teaching influences on young players trying to learn to play the right way in the NBA. They aren't likely to screw up offensive or defensive sets/plays, and so screw up what the other players are trying to do. Hood and JR both will/do.

Now, I'm not against moving either Kover or Hill if we get decent offers. But there is no need to move them ASAP -- they are not "addition by subtraction" guys. JR, on the other hand, is addition by subtraction.

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

Well I'm not going to argue with somebody who feels that we should inflate their value before trading them

Lol..where did you get the idea that i'm sombody who wants us to inflate their value before we trade them? argh.

my reasoning for trading them sooner is so we can get a jump-start on developing our younger guys, particularly Sexton.

That's exactly my reasoning. Keeping them would actually help us develop Sexton faster. Why the heck do you think it would hinder their development? You know that the Cavs are going to need to fill in the minutes regardless right? or you expect the Cavs to roll with Dekker,Nwaba,Clarkson,Taylor as the second unit and as their replacements?

Whether it's now or later, those guys need to go.

One is not like the other. JR needs to go, yes. The other two will unfortunately have to go if we get a good offer that we will not be able to pass up(I.E 1st round pick). Meanwhile, Hill will share PG duties with Sexton on both ends of the floor and be a floor spacer for Sexton; and Korver will be the absolute floor spacer for Cedi and Sexton--not to mention that we have seen how impactful Krover has been on Cedi...so we might as well see what he can do for Sexton until the deadline at the very least. Don't see why we need to hurry and trade him.

My overall point is: how can anybody make a case for Hill, JR and Korver being better "fits" for this team than Hood???

Easily..do you mean right now or in the long term? For the team or for Sexton?

Right now, they provide better mentorship, and both play basketball the right way on both ends(Even if Korver can't keep up atheltically on the defensive end).

What does Hood provide better for Sexton and the team in the short term? Defensively, he is worse than both of them, and offensively both of them fit better than Hood...unless you think that Hood's ability to create is important to Sexton.

Hill and Korver will probably be off the team by next year. Unless they become an issue in the locker room and/or hurt our tank if the Cavs wish to tank, then I see no reason for them to be traded asap. I see great value in Korver's mentorship, and guaranteed that he will provide better on court value than Hood if the Cavs have playoffs aspirations.

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...ron-cavaliers-needed-to-gut-it-and-start-over