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That article relies on an EC scout, who says this about Hood:

Scout's Take:

"Cleveland can get him for a song and dance at this point. I don't think anyone else wants him, which is surprising because I really liked him in Utah. Utah just let him fly. I was impressed with how he came back in the Finals as an 'I'll show you' game.

I always liked him."

Yikes.

He did play hard in the finals, and he scored needed baskets against Boston when he was in.

The question with Hood is did he learn from the playoffs how much work he needs to put in?

If he busted his ass this offseason, perhaps he can be an asset for the the Cavs. If not, it’s not a lot of money nor time wasted for the organization.
 
That article relies on an EC scout, who says this about Hood:

Scout's Take:

"Cleveland can get him for a song and dance at this point. I don't think anyone else wants him, which is surprising because I really liked him in Utah. Utah just let him fly. I was impressed with how he came back in the Finals as an 'I'll show you' game.

I always liked him."

Yikes.
Yeah, that article is trash. It's based on a shitty premise.
 
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My guess is we didn't get Vonleh because Kevin Love signed an extension. Vonleh went to the knicks the same day Love signed his extension.

I was interested in Vonleh if we had intensions of moving Love. Frye could have been a good mentor to him and helped him with his shooting. Preston and Vonleh would have been a real interesting pairing at SF and PF. I understand why he passed on coming to the Cavs, he would have had a hard time getting minutes if Love is here long term. Also Nance would have a leg up on him for minutes at PF.
 
Just noticed. First exhibition game is Oct 2. More excited about this year, at least the reg season, than any season in a long time
Zero expectations but excited to see how Sexton. Cedi. Zizic nance. Nwaba. Dekker Even Preston. All develop. Starting to feel better about Clarkson too. He is the Goat. But it will be good to see a team without lebrons yolk all over it
 
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Pretty interesting podcast. Griff said he knew LeBron was gone after winning the championship in 2016. Also seem to praise Koby on what he has done so far. He talks about optionality and how Gilbert has preached it. He said optionality is more important now in the NBA than every before. Koby has built alot of optionality into the team's flexibility so far. He said he wished he build in more optionality into the team when he was building it.

Also talked about how it was a mistake to give JR a multi-year contract. To get the best out of JR he needs to be on a one year contract. It keeps him motivated at the end of the season. Griff said JR came into the season out of shape and would try to play himself into shape, which resulted in him getting injured.

I also don't think Griff will be a GM again with the way he was talking. He realized he could work for NBA tv take the easy life. Just work enough to live how he wants vs living to work all the time. He says he would get back to being a GM if he could get in with a ownership group who is buying a team.
 
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Pretty interesting podcast. Griff said he knew LeBron was gone after winning the championship in 2016.
People keep saying this but I'm not sure I believe it. LeBron signed a multi-year contract shortly after the win for the first time since returning because he a) realized his goal of wracking up additional titles was a very real possibility b) had greater trust in the organization because they had finally put a championship-winning team around him.

I think it was only after the Cavs got destroyed by the Durant Warriors and his running mate Kyrie wanted out that LeBron set his sights on greener pastures.
 
People keep saying this but I'm not sure I believe it. LeBron signed a multi-year contract shortly after the win for the first time since returning because he a) realized his goal of wracking up additional titles was a very real possibility b) had greater trust in the organization because they had finally put a championship-winning team around him.

I think it was only after the Cavs got destroyed by the Durant Warriors and his running mate Kyrie wanted out that LeBron set his sights on greener pastures.

Yeah I question it too. Griff did also say he knew his time as GM was numbered too after they won the championship. His moves with the roster seem to point in that direction too. If he knew LeBron was gone but he wanted to stay, I doubt he makes the kind of moves he did in his last year. They were very short term moves and he passed up younger players in the process.

I'm actually happy Gilbert didn't give Griff one more year. I think Griff would have push to go all in and we probably wouldn't have Sexton, Nance, or Cedi on the roster right now.
 
People keep saying this but I'm not sure I believe it. LeBron signed a multi-year contract shortly after the win for the first time since returning because he a) realized his goal of wracking up additional titles was a very real possibility b) had greater trust in the organization because they had finally put a championship-winning team around him.

I think it was only after the Cavs got destroyed by the Durant Warriors and his running mate Kyrie wanted out that LeBron set his sights on greener pastures.

LeBron didn't sign his deal in 2016 until August, by which time he knew the Warriors already had signed Durant.

More importantly, he signed his deal only after the Lakers had signed Mozgov and Deng to contracts that would make it impossible for them to go after LBJ. So if the theory is that LBJ signed shorter term deals not because he didn't trust Dan, but because he didn't know when the Lakers would make the moves that would enable them to sign him, then the deal he signed in 2016 is still perfectly consistent with that.
 
LeBron didn't sign his deal in 2016 until August, by which time he knew the Warriors already had signed Durant.
He was still high on a historic title, especially after realizing what a special teammate he had in Kyrie. He, like everybody else, probably FIGURED that the Warriors with Durant would be a tall task, but didn't KNOW it, yet.

More importantly, he signed his deal only after the Lakers had signed Mozgov and Deng to contracts that would make it impossible for them to go after LBJ.
If LeBron had wanted to go to to the Lakers then there obviously would have been conversations occurring behind-the-scenes and they wouldn't have signed Deng and Mozgov. Even if LeBron had made it known that he'd keep an eye to the future with the Lakers in mind, they wouldn't have signed them.

I truly don't believe LeBron started seriously considering the Lakers until we lost Kyrie. The '17 loss stung, but I think he was confident enough in Kyrie and supporting cast that he didn't feel they couldn't return and gave it another go with a few adjustments (which should have occurred after '16, only we got fat and happy and made a ton of wrong moves.) He even famously told Kyrie "we'll be back" following the '17 loss...I don't think he would have uttered those words if his mind was preoccupied with LA.

Griffin saying that LeBron was gone after the '16 title is just him trying to compensate for the lousy job he did that summer. We didn't sign a backup PG and thought broken-ass Dunleavy (later, Korver) was the answer to GS adding a top-2 player in the league. Truthfully, there is no legit counter to that but adding a couple defensive-minded players a la Houston while you still had the '16 title core in place was the way to go about it. Griff horribly bungled it.
 
He was still high on a historic title, especially after realizing what a special teammate he had in Kyrie. He, like everybody else, probably FIGURED that the Warriors with Durant would be a tall task, but didn't KNOW it, yet.


If LeBron had wanted to go to to the Lakers then there obviously would have been conversations occurring behind-the-scenes and they wouldn't have signed Deng and Mozgov. Even if LeBron had made it known that he'd keep an eye to the future with the Lakers in mind, they wouldn't have signed them.

I truly don't believe LeBron started seriously considering the Lakers until we lost Kyrie. The '17 loss stung, but I think he was confident enough in Kyrie and supporting cast that he didn't feel they couldn't return and gave it another go with a few adjustments (which should have occurred after '16, only we got fat and happy and made a ton of wrong moves.) He even famously told Kyrie "we'll be back" following the '17 loss...I don't think he would have uttered those words if his mind was preoccupied with LA.

Griffin saying that LeBron was gone after the '16 title is just him trying to compensate for the lousy job he did that summer. We didn't sign a backup PG and thought broken-ass Dunleavy (later, Korver) was the answer to GS adding a top-2 player in the league. Truthfully, there is no legit counter to that but adding a couple defensive-minded players a la Houston while you still had the '16 title core in place was the way to go about it. Griff horribly bungled it.

I feel like Griff was like a gambler on a hot streak between 2014-2016. The moment we won the championship was like hitting the jackpot then his luck caught up with him and the 2016-2017 season happen. From the way he talks, it really seems like it was a multual decision to part ways with the Cavs. I think he knew if he pulled off the PG13 trade, he was going to get whatever he wanted from Gilbert. I also think he knew he didn't want to be here if he didn't pull off the PG13 trade. Griff wasn't built for a rebuild.

The way he talks about Koby, it really seems like he wants him to succeed. It also seems like Griff is amazed at some of the things Koby has pulled off with the cards he was dealt.

It's a real interesting podcast because there is alot there to digest. He also brings up Sashi Brown and compares him to Sam Hinkie.
 
I feel like Griff was like a gambler on a hot streak between 2014-2016. The moment we won the championship was like hitting the jackpot then his luck caught up with him and the 2016-2017 season happen. From the way he talks, it really seems like it was a multual decision to part ways with the Cavs. I think he knew if he pulled off the PG13 trade, he was going to get whatever he wanted from Gilbert. I also think he knew he didn't want to be here if he didn't pull off the PG13 trade. Griff wasn't built for a rebuild.

The way he talks about Koby, it really seems like he wants him to succeed. It also seems like Griff is amazed at some of the things Koby has pulled off with the cards he was dealt.

It's a real interesting podcast because there is alot there to digest. He also brings up Sashi Brown and compares him to Sam Hinkie.
I still think Griffin sold the future of the team for that championship. He knew it and so did Lebron. James moved on to his big payday, now and into the future, I don't blame him in the least.
 
I still think Griffin sold the future of the team for that championship. He knew it and so did Lebron. James moved on to his big payday, now and into the future, I don't blame him in the least.

I mean it was really tough already to beat that team. Everyone who freaked out as soon as they signed Durant was totally right to. Adding Durant to that core was just incredibly hard to counter. Nobody expected them to get so much better in one year. It is just so hard for a contender.

Griff did the right thing to use everything he had to win. I guess we were all just a little surprised at how fast the wheels fell off. Had Kyrie stayed, we would have thought Lebron stayed until he retired, but maybe that was never in the cards, and so going all in on 2016 was the right move.
 
I think we botched it to me honest.

Kevin Love was not the best acquisition from the get go. We should have looked into a 2 way wing to complement Lebron. We should have done anything to find that player and we came very close with PG13... But still, we could have gotten defensive wings ala Houston, it was obviously what was needed... But we gave long term deals to JR and TT instead, which handcuffed us past 2 years. The Kyrie trade ended up absolutely horrible in retrospect as well... We should have gotten much more than Collin Sexton out of that. And now, we just gave a max to Love, which will probably be one of the shittiest contracts in the league in 2 years.

Not bitter though, the 2016 championship will stay in the history books as one of the greatest.
 

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