Dylan “Breaking” Windler is a Laker. How much help does LeBron need!?

[Cavatt]

Yes, It's not so much where you play him it's when you play him..teams have players like these and they don't play a specific position on the court they're in there to shoot and score.
The where you play him on defense will be against the opponents weakest player on the court, thats where they'll hide him.

Do you think he is actually going to be the worst defender we have? I'm just curious. It is easy for me to believe he was coasting on that end as the lead scorer on his team. It's a little hard for me to believe that a guy with such good fundamentals elsewhere and as a competitor that he will just be useless on that end. He's not limited athletically, he has good size, he is a little light, but seems strong. I dunno. I will have to see him play inthe NBA to see what is up there.

Is he known to avoid contact? Doesn't seem like he would be a good rebounder if he was. I seriously have no idea as I have only seen his offensive highlights.

 

[Amherstcavsfan]

Do you think he is actually going to be the worst defender we have? I'm just curious. It is easy for me to believe he was coasting on that end as the lead scorer on his team. It's a little hard for me to believe that a guy with such good fundamentals elsewhere and as a competitor that he will just be useless on that end. He's not limited athletically, he has good size, he is a little light, but seems strong. I dunno. I will have to see him play inthe NBA to see what is up there.

Is he known to avoid contact? Doesn't seem like he would be a good rebounder if he was. I seriously have no idea as I have only seen his offensive highlights.

I'd imagine it'd be very hard to be much worse than Sexton was last year. Additionally, we already know his lateral ability is great.

Also, regarding defense, there are ways to scheme around having poor defenders. Especially with the NBA allowing more zonal defense, teams can scheme their defenses much different. Obviously a heavy switching style would be a total disaster, but they can be scheme around having poor defenders. However, the Cavs desperately need a good defensive center to lead the defense. TT is pretty good at things like that, so I wouldn't be surprised if they did try to keep him. Or if they try to get a good defensive center through trade.

Next year, the Cavs desperately need to focus on getting a truly great big man. Doesn't have to be a floor stretcher, but they need that gravity on pick and rolls and they need a defensive captain.

 

[RichieRichPaul]

I got a nickname for dude, “Thin Windy”

Gotta make sure everyone knows we’re not talking about big ole windy from espn

 

[bigfoot5415]

I see a lot of Luke Jackson in his game. I think Luke's athleticism is often overlooked and he had such a sweet stroke. Maybe I've finally found my L-Jax fix.

15 years later..

 

[Jordan]

I got a nickname for dude, “Thin Windy”

Gotta make sure everyone knows we’re not talking about big ole windy from espn

Ahh, never heard a "fat Windy" joke before, creative!

 

[1B4IGO]

I got a nickname for dude, “Thin Windy”

Gotta make sure everyone knows we’re not talking about big ole windy from espn

I thought I read he prefers "Big Boned" and watch the smut or gay references "not that there's anything wrong with that!"

 

[JayP146]

Ahh, never heard a "fat Windy" joke before, creative!

Remember before we had Woj bombs, it was “Breaking Wind” whenever he leaked info

 

[Green Lantern]

Do you think he is actually going to be the worst defender we have? I'm just curious. It is easy for me to believe he was coasting on that end as the lead scorer on his team. It's a little hard for me to believe that a guy with such good fundamentals elsewhere and as a competitor that he will just be useless on that end. He's not limited athletically, he has good size, he is a little light, but seems strong. I dunno. I will have to see him play inthe NBA to see what is up there.

Is he known to avoid contact? Doesn't seem like he would be a good rebounder if he was. I seriously have no idea as I have only seen his offensive highlights.

No I don't think he will be the worst defender ..he won't be useless.
I expect the Cavs to have a better scheme defensively and it should benefit all of them.
As I mentioned there are ways to cover weaker defenders, and the better teams know how to do it.
I have only a few games that I saw but I wasn't focused on him, I just remember him knocking down shots .
It's one of those things we'll just have to see, first in the summer league , then preseaon and of course when the action is real.

 

[I'mWithDan]

Yes, It's not so much where you play him it's when you play him..teams have players like these and they don't play a specific position on the court they're in there to shoot and score.
The where you play him on defense will be against the opponents weakest player on the court, thats where they'll hide him.

Hide him? I really don't think he's that type of player on defense. This insinuates worst on the court and in all honesty, our team is not constructed in a way that will allow him to be that, if he wants to play at all.

I don't think he's going to be a plus defender but I also don't think he's going to be bad to where he's hunted, which is what the worst players on teams (like Sexton) repeatedly get. With his size, length, side to side athleticism and effort, he's going to be good enough to stay on the floor.....that is all you can ask of someone with his shooting and secondary scoring ability. Good enough to stay on the floor on defense allows him to be a slightly past neutral or plus player overall, which would be a massive win at #26. And to be clear, most NBA players fall in to that category.....just good enough on defense, so it's not even a slight.

 

[Nathan S]

Hide him? I really don't think he's that type of player on defense. This insinuates worst on the court and in all honesty, our team is not constructed in a way that will allow him to be that, if he wants to play at all.

I don't think he's going to be a plus defender but I also don't think he's going to be bad to where he's hunted, which is what the worst players on teams (like Sexton) repeatedly get. With his size, length, side to side athleticism and effort, he's going to be good enough to stay on the floor.....that is all you can ask of someone with his shooting and secondary scoring ability. Good enough to stay on the floor on defense allows him to be a slightly past neutral or plus player overall, which would be a massive win at #26. And to be clear, most NBA players fall in to that category.....just good enough on defense, so it's not even a slight.

So you're saying it's not a viable defensive scheme to hide Sexton, Garland, Porter, and Windler on the opponent's worst offensive player while Love defends everyone else?

 

[Green Lantern]

Hide him? I really don't think he's that type of player on defense. This insinuates worst on the court and in all honesty, our team is not constructed in a way that will allow him to be that, if he wants to play at all.

I don't think he's going to be a plus defender but I also don't think he's going to be bad to where he's hunted, which is what the worst players on teams (like Sexton) repeatedly get. With his size, length, side to side athleticism and effort, he's going to be good enough to stay on the floor.....that is all you can ask of someone with his shooting and secondary scoring ability. Good enough to stay on the floor on defense allows him to be a slightly past neutral or plus player overall, which would be a massive win at #26. And to be clear, most NBA players fall in to that category.....just good enough on defense, so it's not even a slight.

Yes hide him , switch, or double at times, if they find he cannot handle whomever he may be guarding at the time.
Any rookie is going to get a dose of one on one attacks, to see if they can be taken advantage of.
At this time none of us know how he's going to perform on defense but it'll be be known once he gets time.

 

[Cavsfan1985]

He definitely has the tools and seems to have the IQ to be an average defender. While we do not have any great defenders on the team right now, I think with a better scheme we will look better next year. We did take him with the 26th pick, if he turns into someone who can be in the rotation and is an elite 3 point shooter I think it is a win with the pick. Having a guy like this on the roster for at-least the next 4 years gives us cheap talent.

I sort of look at the future like this: This year focus more on the younger players (now that we have some with potential), play hard and the right way and finish in the bottom 5 teams. Try to move the expiring contracts for more assets and go into the draft and get the best wing available.

In 2 years, hopefully the young players have proven themselves and we fight for a playoff spot.

In 3 years, we have max cap space, a ton of cheap young talent that just missed the playoffs, and maybe we make a move for a FA.

 

[cavsfever]

So you're saying it's not a viable defensive scheme to hide Sexton, Garland, Porter, and Windler on the opponent's worst defensive player while Love defends everyone else?

LOL. I think you mean "offensive" player. Larger point - we are not building a great defensive roster here, at least so far. Porter has the athletic potential to be a good defender on three positions (quick, has good SG and decent SF size) but he was not known as a good defender in college. Not sure who we have on our roster who fits the modern prototype of a long combo forward who can guard inside and on the perimeter and is a good jump shooter. Cedi?

We need Windler to be at least an average defender I would think, we aren't going to have a roster to "hide" him.

 

[Nathan S]

LOL. I think you mean "offensive" player. Larger point - we are not building a great defensive roster here, at least so far. Porter has the athletic potential to be a good defender on three positions (quick, has good SG and decent SF size) but he was not known as a good defender in college. Not sure who we have on our roster who fits the modern prototype of a long combo forward who can guard inside and on the perimeter and is a good jump shooter. Cedi?

We need Windler to be at least an average defender I would think, we aren't going to have a roster to "hide" him.

Thanks, fixed!

Yeah, I think there's a risk we're just comically bad defensively this year. We were already the worst defense in modern history last year, and we're adding 3 rookies who will, realistically, all be somewhere between mildly below-average and absolutely terrible defensively.

 

[NMCav]

LOL. I think you mean "offensive" player. Larger point - we are not building a great defensive roster here, at least so far. Porter has the athletic potential to be a good defender on three positions (quick, has good SG and decent SF size) but he was not known as a good defender in college. Not sure who we have on our roster who fits the modern prototype of a long combo forward who can guard inside and on the perimeter and is a good jump shooter. Cedi?

We need Windler to be at least an average defender I would think, we aren't going to have a roster to "hide" him.

Kevin Porter Jr. was actually a good man to man defender at USC the issue was off ball. Thats where KPJ really needs to improve his game on both sides of the ball. He's a good with the ball on offense and a gritty on ball defender. But off ball on defense he lacks awareness and effort and off ball on offense he just stands around.