2019 Mock Drafts

[Lee]

Even if Wilkins isn't, I'm having a hard time seeing an impact player at 17 who I think would NOT be there at 20-25. This is more based on me only liking a few players at that range anyway.

Greedy Williams, Ed Oliver, Devin White, Jonah Williams are probably the four guys I'd expect to stay at 17 for.*

*Bosa, Williams, Sweat, Allen, Sweat, Burns off the board.


If you can pick up an extra 2nd or 3rd by moving back four spots and still getting Devin Bush, or Hockenson, or whoever you think you can get at that next range, I like the move.

Hockenson is gone by 17 most likely but for sure by the 20's. You want him you have to cross your fingers and stay.

If we love Bush, and most of us do, lol....moving back a few spots to take him and picking up a day 2 pick is for sure the way to go if available.

And I do like Devin Bush, really almost as much as White, he is a decently close 2nd favorite LB to me. A bit undersized, but fast as fuck with good instincts.

 

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

I didn't say it right, I meant hill type, just not as good. I ended up having something come up at work.

Hill is the best player in a long time that does what he does. The slot receiver who can also run and return kicks. He is a modern Eric Metcalf. Didn't mean to imply he will be as good as Hill, but Paris will be used in a similar way as Hill.

Definitely. I think there's a ton of value in having elite speed that can stretch a defense horizontally. The two guys I love in this draft who can do that are Parris Campbell and Andy Isabella. If we can walk away with one of those guys, I'll be very happy.

 

[Lee]

Definitely. I think there's a ton of value in having elite speed that can stretch a defense horizontally. The two guys I love in this draft who can do that are Parris Campbell and Andy Isabella. If we can walk away with one of those guys, I'll be very happy.

I don't think Parris has the route running skills as Isabella. The slot receiver needs to use his hips and deceptive quickness to gain separation in a tight spot. Its a skill all on its own and while Jarvis can do it, I don't mind keeping him on the outside allot because Jarvis is a bit slow, but has fantastic hands and runs a very good route, or atleast 10-15 yard routes for him are fantastic, the lack of speed catches up to him on longer routes.

 

[Ohio]

Parris certainly has elite speed...but his route running is incredibly raw. And his hands are just okay. I'm just not sure how well he's going to translate to the NFL. Nobody on OSU benefited more from Ryan Day's system than Campbell.

I just think he'd be an incredibly risky pick in the 2nd round; much like Devin Smith was.

Simply put, I think McLaurin is the better player. And a safer pick to boot.

 

[AZ_]

Can we plz not bucket prospects into a bucket because they went to the same school?

 

[natedagg]

What are peoples thoughts on potentially drafting Jeffery Simmons at 17? Since the injury there hasn't been much talk of him on here, even though he was pretty much the consensus number 2-3 DT in the class. He's a great run stuffer, great at rushing the passer, by all accounts from Mississippi State he's a model student who made a terrrible mistake as a kid. The injury is scary and I don't know the history of guys at that position with that particular injury, but is there reason to expect that with modern medicine it might not be an issue in the long term?

I love this dude. I think it’s tough to discuss bc we aren’t going to be privy to the medicals. One factor to consider is length and amount of guarantees in the 2nd versus 1st round - I can’t recall the details of how that works. Maybe he is exactly the type of guy to take at the very top of the 2nd round.

I would be ecstatic if we somehow got him in r2.

 

[raiders91sc]

Parris certainly has elite speed...but his route running is incredibly raw. And his hands are just okay. I'm just not sure how well he's going to translate to the NFL. Nobody on OSU benefited more from Ryan Day's system than Campbell.

I just think he'd be an incredibly risky pick in the 2nd round; much like Devin Smith was.

Simply put, I think McLaurin is the better player. And a safer pick to boot.

I agree everything you said about Paris but McLaurin isn't better. There is a reason one will be a 2nd round pick and another 4th round pick.

 

[AZ_]

I agree everything you said about Paris but McLaurin isn't better. There is a reason one will be a 2nd round pick and another 4th round pick.

There are some flaws in this logic.

People get overdrafted on metrics all the time, but I don't see one reason why Paris is going ahead of Terry with the exception of pure measurables.

 

[raiders91sc]

There are some flaws in this logic.

People get overdrafted on metrics all the time, but I don't see one reason why Paris is going ahead of Terry with the exception of pure measurables.

Pure measurables do have an effect on where ur drafted for a reason and if u look at the measurables they are a lot closer then u think. Coming into college I think Terry had the highest score in the nation for the test they do at camps do the combine. Cant remember what it is called. 2nd I'm not just going off that. If you see the film of both Terry does one thing better then Paris--block. Did Terry run more of a mixture of routes compared to Paris who usually ran crossing routes-yes he did. But he didn't run them very well. They played with a NFL QB and Terry had problems getting open. Both have about the same drop rate. Terry blocks better like I said before. Paris gets more yards per catch, after catch, better at making people miss and better at getting 1st down.

I've seen every game these 2 have played and I don't think it is even close.

 

[AZ_]

Pure measurables do have an effect on where ur drafted for a reason and if u look at the measurables they are a lot closer then u think. Coming into college I think Terry had the highest score in the nation for the test they do at camps do the combine. Cant remember what it is called. 2nd I'm not just going off that. If you see the film of both Terry does one thing better then Paris--block. Did Terry run more of a mixture of routes compared to Paris who usually ran crossing routes-yes he did. But he didn't run them very well. They played with a NFL QB and Terry had problems getting open. Both have about the same drop rate. Terry blocks better like I said before. Paris gets more yards per catch, after catch, better at making people miss and better at getting 1st down.

I've seen every game these 2 have played and I don't think it is even close.

Terry didn't appear to have problems getting open at all. In fact, he ran a far more diverse series of routes than Campbell did, who was mainly used in a limited role to utilize his pure speed.

Campbell has poor ball skills, he doesn't get open and make plays down the field. They're simply two different players in every sense.

McLauren is an actual WR, not more of a gadget piece like Campbell who is technically a WR but it only going to play a limited number of snaps and fewer routes.

 

[raiders91sc]

Terry didn't appear to have problems getting open at all. In fact, he ran a far more diverse series of routes than Campbell did, who was mainly used in a limited role to utilize his pure speed.

Campbell has poor ball skills, he doesn't get open and make plays down the field. They're simply two different players in every sense.

McLauren is an actual WR, not more of a gadget piece like Campbell who is technically a WR but it only going to play a limited number of snaps and fewer routes.

I agree with them being different WR in how they were used in college but I think Paris can do what Terry does just as good but Terry cant do what Paris does. Just my opinion not a fact.

Campbell has poor ball skills, he doesn't get open and make plays down the field--I say the same about Terry.

To each his own.

 

[AZ_]

I agree with them being different WR in how they were used in college but I think Paris can do what Terry does just as good but Terry cant do what Paris does. Just my opinion not a fact.

Campbell has poor ball skills, he doesn't get open and make plays down the field--I say the same about Terry.

To each his own.

Why would you say the same about McLaurin?

That was literally his money last year. 35 catches, 11 TD, 20 yards per catch and was absolutely unstoppable on deep routes.

Paris can't do that at all, he's not good down the field.

 

[MGMT]

Paris is an end-around, quick slant on soft coverage and bubble screen kind of guy.

McLauren is...more and I don’t believe I’ve actual seen evidence which is demonstrative of the contrary.

 

[sportscoach]

With the trade for Vernon and the signing of Richardson, does anyone else feel like this draft we are looking at LB, CB and TE at 17? (Possibly OLine as well if any of the top guys fall).

 

[AZ_]

With the trade for Vernon and the signing of Richardson, does anyone else feel like this draft we are looking at LB, CB and TE at 17? (Possibly OLine as well if any of the top guys fall).

No.

They'll probably take the player who they feel is the best.