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He had a lot of choice words to say about the Cleveland Browns after the draft a few years ago. He's not coming here, nor do I see us kicking the tires.

Well what happens I we are the only one who offers a contract? When he is coming back from injury, you have to take what ya can get. And if we don't it's no big deal, but what has happened has happened, things can change. Personally I would be okay with him if he was brought in if we don't have a true starter yet by the time he is a free agent.
 
So this is out of left field and I haven't heard any rumors to this but was thinking this afternoon about Blake Bortles.

The Jaguars did not pick up his 5th year option so he's going to be a free agent after this season. There are mock drafts out there with the Jags taking Watson. What about Hue Jackson getting his hands on Bortles. Is he still a high level talent/prospect or have we seen enough to know he's not what we thought he'd be? @AZ_. Price tag would probably be affordable.

I know @The Oi , he's available.
 
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So this is out of left field and I haven't heard any rumors to this but was thinking this afternoon about Blake Bortles.

The Jaguars did not pick up his 5th year option so he's going to be a free agent after this season. There are mock drafts out there with the Jags taking Watson. What about Hue Jackson getting his hands on Bortles. Is he still a high level talent/prospect or have we seen enough to know he's not what we thought he'd be? @AZ_. Price tag would probably be affordable.

I know @The Oi , he's available.

Has he really had any good QB coaching since entering the league? His situation reminds me a lot of Goff being jailed with Jeff Fisher.
 
Bortles is another cautionary tale of drafting a spread quarterback. He had a windup style of throwing which meant a slower release time, and he had the usual footwork problems you hear about year after year with spread quarterbacks. Is it his fault he still has these problems or the pro coaches at Jacksonville? His issues mirror countless other good prospects in this draft and several previous drafts. I think the lesson here is that drafting a QB has a ton of risk because some QBs develop their mechanics and some don't.
 
Bortles is another cautionary tale of drafting a spread quarterback. He had a windup style of throwing which meant a slower release time, and he had the usual footwork problems you hear about year after year with spread quarterbacks. Is it his fault he still has these problems or the pro coaches at Jacksonville? His issues mirror countless other good prospects in this draft and several previous drafts. I think the lesson here is that drafting a QB has a ton of risk because some QBs develop their mechanics and some don't.

The slower release time I get, because I was of the belief that could be improved upon.

But a spread QB? Nah, homie.


With you on the lack of proper coaching staff development, but Bortles wasn't really a true spread guy.
 
The slower release time I get, because I was of the belief that could be improved upon.

But a spread QB? Nah, homie.


With you on the lack of proper coaching staff development, but Bortles wasn't really a true spread guy.

Lots of shotgun and option action to start plays, tendency to have scripted quick throws out of the gun which leads to arm throws with poor throwing base. Where am I wrong here about O'Leary's system?
 
Lots of shotgun and option action to start plays, tendency to have scripted quick throws out of the gun which leads to arm throws with poor throwing base. Where am I wrong here about O'Leary's system?

Is there anyone that doesn't run shotgun and option plays in college anymore?

I don't really see how this is a sticking point anymore.
 
Keys and FiveThous believe he's wasted. What do you think @AZ_ ?
 
Is there anyone that doesn't run shotgun and option plays in college anymore?

I don't really see how this is a sticking point anymore.

It's about the amount of pro style offensive formations a quarterback starts plays in, how often he is required to start passing plays behind center. There just aren't enough college programs preparing QBs for these formations anymore.
 
It's about the amount of pro style offensive formations a quarterback starts plays in, how often he is required to start passing plays behind center. There just aren't enough college programs preparing QBs for these formations anymore.

Why, have you seen how often NFL teams are using shotgun sets as opposed to 5-10 years ago?

There's a clear shift, I'd be far more concerned with route concepts and throws made to determine what a QB can or can't do at the next level.

Dak Prescott would be a good example.
 
Why, have you seen how often NFL teams are using shotgun sets as opposed to 5-10 years ago?

There's a clear shift, I'd be far more concerned with route concepts and throws made to determine what a QB can or can't do at the next level.

Dak Prescott would be a good example.

I consider Dak Prescott a good example of why an elite running back makes a rookie quarterback's transition a whole lot easier.
 
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I consider Dak Prescott a good example of why an elite running back makes a rookie quarterback's transition a whole lot easier.

Would you prefer Derek Carr or Marcus Mariota, then?
 

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