Hue Jackson and Todd Haley Fired

[Huber.]

I like to think he was just giving the Raven's "deuces" and to GTFO.

@red. @Goldin Brown how do you explain this?

 

[Juice is Loose]

@red. @Goldin Brown how do you explain this?

Before the kick, there’s 6 seconds left on the clock. When the kick went through, the CBS broadcast showed 2 seconds left as well. They get the clock from the stadium. I was in the same boat, there’s 2 seconds left. So until the refs came over and told him, it was over, he thought there was time on the clock. The two second thing/two finger is being waaaaay over blown.

 

[Huber.]

Before the kick, there’s 6 seconds left on the clock. When the kick went through, the CBS broadcast showed 2 seconds left as well. They get the clock from the stadium. I was in the same boat, there’s 2 seconds left. So until the refs came over and told him, it was over, he thought there was time on the clock. The two second thing/two finger is being waaaaay over blown.

Yeah but you're just a fan. When a coach doesn't know the rules (especially when the refs announced over the PA that it was now sudden death after each team possessed the ball) it's concerning. This wouldn't be concerning if it wasn't every game he seems to do something like this. Dude is the worst game manager I have ever seen which is his biggest game day job left after gave up play calling.

 

[Pick6]

Before the kick, there’s 6 seconds left on the clock. When the kick went through, the CBS broadcast showed 2 seconds left as well. They get the clock from the stadium. I was in the same boat, there’s 2 seconds left. So until the refs came over and told him, it was over, he thought there was time on the clock. The two second thing/two finger is being waaaaay over blown.

I def agree its overblown. But I also think he should have known the game was over regardless of how much time was left on the clock. However, the refs apparently didn't realize it either. Anyone can have a brain fart I guess, and frankly the OT rules change on a seemingly annual basis. Definitely over blown.

 

[Cassity14]

3-33-1

I'm not sure what this is supposed to refute or exactly how it's supposed to refute what I said.

You cannot put the record all on Hue as it was crystal clear that this team was built to lose as much as possible the first two seasons under him.

 

[Surge]

The winning thing is new to this team, city, and coach.

Cut him some slack on this one. It's still not as bad as David Blatt in the Bulls series.

 

[Binkster]

I mean, come on guys. I’m not a Hue guy but the refs were confused the entire day and caused a hell of a lot of confusion at the end of the game. They kept the players on the field. Let’s check in on the Ravens’ sideline:
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[red.]

Before the kick, there’s 6 seconds left on the clock. When the kick went through, the CBS broadcast showed 2 seconds left as well. They get the clock from the stadium. I was in the same boat, there’s 2 seconds left. So until the refs came over and told him, it was over, he thought there was time on the clock. The two second thing/two finger is being waaaaay over blown.

Bingo.

Hue actually talks about the whole situation. It’s not that serious.

Not sure why fans are trying to really drag this thing out.

 

[BMAN]

I'm not sure what this is supposed to refute or exactly how it's supposed to refute what I said.

You cannot put the record all on Hue as it was crystal clear that this team was built to lose as much as possible the first two seasons under him.

No excuses for going 0-16. Dude blundered away a few wins.

 

[blommen]

No excuses for going 0-16. Dude blundered away a few wins.

And it got us Baker Mayfield. We were supposed to be fucking awful, we were, and now we're improving. I don't think Hue is some sort of coaching savant, but having a coach who can gain and maintain the respect of a roster after the amount of losing the Browns have been doing doesn't seem like something that happens very often.

 

[BMAN]

And it got us Baker Mayfield. We were supposed to be fucking awful, we were, and now we're improving. I don't think Hue is some sort of coaching savant, but having a coach who can gain and maintain the respect of a roster after the amount of losing the Browns have been doing doesn't seem like something that happens very often.

I understand we were supposed to be awful. I was all for it. But if the GM loses his job for being awful on purpose he deserves to get the fuck out too. I still see the dumbass decision making that led to some defeats. He’s going to hold us back.

Bullshit the fans are being too hard on him. The dude sucks.

 

[Randolphkeys]

No excuses for going 0-16. Dude blundered away a few wins.

Because most fans had him fired after the season last year for multiple months, only to find out Hue was staying. Fans are prideful and don't like being wrong. Hue hasn't and won't be given a chance by the fans even if ownership felt he deserved one.

 

[buzzdog]

Because most fans had him fired after the season last year for multiple months, only to find out Hue was staying. Fans are prideful and don't like being wrong. Hue hasn't and won't be given a chance by the fans even if ownership felt he deserved one.

Fans are only fans and their opinions are only opinions and not necessarily facts. The only opinions that matter are the opinions of guys like Haslem, Dorsey, the players, and other NFL insiders. The most typical knee jerk reaction that fans have is to hate on the coaches and to want them fired. We've seen it with Lue, hell I even recall when I was a kid my father always ranted about coaches sucking back in the 60s and 70s.

Until key people decide that Hue needs to be gone it doesn't matter what the fans think.

Same thing goes for radio announcers too, their opinions don't mean squat.

 

[Lee]

Because most fans had him fired after the season last year for multiple months, only to find out Hue was staying. Fans are prideful and don't like being wrong. Hue hasn't and won't be given a chance by the fans even if ownership felt he deserved one.

If we make the playoffs or even in it until the last week or two, the fans opinion on Hue will change.

Look I was not a fan, but he was a proven coordinator and the players like him. I like both of our main coordinators, although Amos is embarrassingly bad, but he didn't miss the kicks, that's not on Amos and Peppers was supposed to be a return specialist who isn't working out at the NFL level and that's not really on Amos.

My point is I am willing to give Hue a 2nd chance and evaluate him on this season alone. Right now I would say keep everyone but Amos, we have greatly approved. He did make the switch to Baker and 100% handled the situation correctly. He didn't make a knee jerk reaction after the Jets game, and handled the switch professionally waiting till Monday and talking with Tyrod first.

Hopefully Hue learns game management better, its not as easy of a job as we make it out to be and its not all on Hue. I am in wait and see mode.

 

[Randolphkeys]

Same thing goes for radio announcers too, their opinions don't mean squat.

As we have all agreed upon for years, Cleveland radio hosts learned long ago that accuracy doesn't matter. What matters is filling air, raising listener numbers, and selling Fords at the commercial break. Accuracy and analysis takes work and filling air with anger is way easier.