Cedi Osman Goodbye & Good Luck

[LeeBuckeye]

This team switches everything so positions don’t matter and he’s getting tough assignments on the other end. The burst he had in SL is gone and it might be more psychological than anything.

Sexton looked slow in the beginning of the season for some reason and now he’s beating the fastest guards in the league to the hoop. Something clicked for him that hasn’t yet clicked for Cedi. Maybe it’s nerves from the fear of making a mistake by losing the ball in traffic but his creativity and flair has been absent as well.

 

[Jake]

The Bullshit Whisperer reporting clips interested in cedi

If true, I'd listen to all offers. I find it hard to believe anyone would be interested in him. He's one of our least productive guys.

 

[Stark]

If true, I'd listen to all offers. I find it hard to believe anyone would be interested in him. He's one of our least productive guys.

I'm not. Kid has talent and heart but is being asked to do a bit too much for a shitty team and thus is very inefficient this year. He went from being a dude Lue only played with LeBron or in crunch time to pretty much being gifted the keys to an NBA offense along with a rookie PG. Of course he doesn't look great.

Osman was part of some of our best lineups last season when we didn't blow ass and have Clarkson out there pounding the shit out of the ball for 20 seconds of the shot clock.

It also doesn't help that jackass Larry Drew is playing him at the four way too much.

 

[Dshuks]

I'm not. Kid has talent and heart but is being asked to do a bit too much for a shitty team and thus is very inefficient this year. He went from being a dude Lue only played with LeBron or in crunch time to pretty much being gifted the keys to an NBA offense along with a rookie PG. Of course he doesn't look great.

Osman was part of some of our best lineups last season when we didn't blow ass and have Clarkson out there pounding the shit out of the ball for 20 seconds of the shot clock.

It also doesn't help that jackass Larry Drew is playing him at the four way too much.

Playing as a 4 hurts him as well because the bulk of his shots at the position tend to be three-pointers, which as we know he is very streaky at.
I also think the lack of an offensive system is hurting him as well, the team is so iso-oriented that player basically have to make things happen for themselves which Cedi isn't good at doing consistently yet.

 

[chuck0609]

Playing as a 4 hurts him as well because the bulk of his shots at the position tend to be three-pointers, which as we know he is very streaky at.
I also think the lack of an offensive system is hurting him as well, the team is so iso-oriented that player basically have to make things happen for themselves which Cedi isn't good at doing consistently yet.

Cedi needs a system and a playmaker next to him- someone that can play to his strengths.
I’d hate to see him go, but it doesn’t seem the Cavs can develop him with ISO Drew at the helm. They’re far more interested in getting Clarkson 20 shots on ISOs a game.
I love to see Cedi in an actual system.

 

[BigZ94]

I think Cedi needs his minutes cut in half, he looks worn out and skinnier even? Also playing the 4 and having to guard guys bigger and stronger then him every night can't be helping either. At 32 per game he's currently 48th in the league for minutes per game right now thats a huge jump from last season and considering how he didn't even have a rest this Summer. He's being severely overplayed and it's hurting him big time.

Honestly I think this is largely on Drew and having no idea how to develop players, Cedi should be starting at the 2 not 4, I get it we have injuries etc but generally at 6,8 with his frame he has no business playing the 4 and with all the basketball he has played this Summer he has no business playing 32 minutes per game

 

[Rich]

These are like a LOT of things being listed as excuses for why isnt playing well.

More likely: he's just not a good NBA player atm and needs to improve individually, regardless of the coach or roster, before he can contribute in a meaningful way.

 

[TitleTown]

More likely: he's just not a good NBA player atm and needs to improve individually, regardless of the coach or roster, before he can contribute in a meaningful way.

Ok...so you're saying the same thing as the rest of us, but acting like it's a new revelation?

 

[Pioneer10]

Hard to blame this on Drew IMO. He's shown flexibility with his lineup to get players into better spots and comfortable. We still suck because we don't have a lot of talent but it hasn't helped that Cedi has not played well at all.

another way to look at this fatigue typically gets you on the back end of back to backs or the 4 in 5 type situations. Remember how stark Love's splits were when he was having back issues in his first years with the Cavs when he had rest. The problem is that Cedi hasn't looked good on the front end of back to backs or with or w/o rest

 

[Cavatt]

Hard to blame this on Drew IMO. He's shown flexibility with his lineup to get players into better spots and comfortable. We still suck because we don't have a lot of talent but it hasn't helped that Cedi has not played well at all.

another way to look at this fatigue typically gets you on the back end of back to backs or the 4 in 5 type situations. Remember how stark Love's splits were when he was having back issues in his first years with the Cavs when he had rest. The problem is that Cedi hasn't looked good on the front end of back to backs or with or w/o rest

Well he is matched up against a guy that no one in the league can guard effectively. He had a career night because he was virtually unstoppable as the biggest, most athletic, and most talented guy on the floor at all times.

It's not an excuse, Cedi isn't as good, big or strong as Gianni's who was best gonatined by our center. Should have had Nance as his primary defender in the first place.

Gs regularly loses to this team going small because no one has a small lineup that can take advantage of Gianni's.

Sexton almost died taking it to the hoop against him. He's like Kevin Durant sized with LeBron strength. It's crazy.

Bucks are the most physical and long team in the league and now they have a potential offense. They are going to be a hard out in the playoffs. You might see a 2007 LeBron type of series but the rest of the family is also very good .

Cedi has struggled lately but he has been playing some tough players. In reality once Love is back, he will not be playing the 4 so much. He needs to get stronger to play the 4 in anything but a bench 4 in a short stints of a small lineup.

What advantage does he have at the 4? 3 ball which has deserted him at the moment and a decent first step that is no good against Giannis.

 

[inliner311]

Cedi has struggled lately but he has been playing some tough players. In reality once Love is back, he will not be playing the 4 so much. He needs to get stronger to play the 4 in anything but a bench 4 in a short stints of a small lineup.

If Drew was better about developing our players, Nance would be getting as many minutes possible at PF until Love came back. I can understand with injury if Cedi soaked up the extra PF minutes since we have a bunch of extra wings at the moment. Frye, Zizic, and Nance should be our big man rotation with Cedi supplementing in minutes with small lineups when warranted.

What we are seeing right now is Drew having success with small lineups and leaning way too hard into them. It feels like something Lue would do.

 

[Pioneer10]

Well he is matched up against a guy that no one in the league can guard effectively. He had a career night because he was virtually unstoppable as the biggest, most athletic, and most talented guy on the floor at all times.

It's not an excuse, Cedi isn't as good, big or strong as Gianni's who was best gonatined by our center. Should have had Nance as his primary defender in the first place.

Gs regularly loses to this team going small because no one has a small lineup that can take advantage of Gianni's.

Sexton almost died taking it to the hoop against him. He's like Kevin Durant sized with LeBron strength. It's crazy.

Bucks are the most physical and long team in the league and now they have a potential offense. They are going to be a hard out in the playoffs. You might see a 2007 LeBron type of series but the rest of the family is also very good .

Cedi has struggled lately but he has been playing some tough players. In reality once Love is back, he will not be playing the 4 so much. He needs to get stronger to play the 4 in anything but a bench 4 in a short stints of a small lineup.

What advantage does he have at the 4? 3 ball which has deserted him at the moment and a decent first step that is no good against Giannis.

It's not just Giannis, he's averaging 8 ppg on 29% FT the last 5 games. If he can't hit jumpers or get around 4's, what is he going to against 3's.
The coaches clearly like him just as the fans do and I would actually argue that they're giving him a pretty fair opportunity. Most teams can't afford to continue to give a guy which his shooting percentages as many minutes as he's getting or the amount of shots.

Fact of the matter is he really needs to figure out how to shoot consistently from NBA 3 pt range: he doesn't have enough of a skillset to more then a marginal roleplayer on a good team unless he can figure that out.

On a side note: Greeks and Turks don't get along traditionally so it would be interesting if Giannis wanted to put an exclamation on this one

 

[JMoneyYourHoney]

These are like a LOT of things being listed as excuses for why isnt playing well.

More likely: he's just not a good NBA player atm and needs to improve individually, regardless of the coach or roster, before he can contribute in a meaningful way.

Yeah, this.

Look, Cedi is a likable dude and we all want him to succeed, but the coronations have been pretty premature around here (like always.)

Methinks we need a thread title change.

 

[Rich]

Ok...so you're saying the same thing as the rest of us, but acting like it's a new revelation?

Dude if you want to suck my dick just ask. It'll cost you. But stop annoying me.

 

[Real Deal]

Getting saucy in here!!