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RE: "He knew what he signed up for", we can debate whether or not empathy is an important quality for a president to have, but does anyone seriously think Trump is an empathetic person?

I haven't been around him enough, or seen enough of how he interacts with average people, to know that. And I'm quite certain that to the extent he engages in acts that would suggest empathy, the media is unlikely to report or emphasize them.
 
Hey Max, go start an Obama administration scandal thread. :chuckle:


Jesus Christ. He never seems to know when to double down and when to lie. This would have been a great opportunity to double-down with talk about how brave he was to face death knowingly and bravely or some shit. Hell, posters in this thread have spun this so much better than Trump. But now he's just lying about it. He's calling a grieving widow a liar, which is almost hilarious in its depravity.

I mean, unless he actually DOES have proof. In which case, what is it and where is it? Is this another Comey tape thing?
 
Hey Max, go start an Obama administration scandal thread. :chuckle:


Jesus Christ. He never seems to know when to double down and when to lie. This would have been a great opportunity to double-down with talk about how brave he was to face death knowingly and bravely or some shit. Hell, posters in this thread have spun this so much better than Trump. But now he's just lying about it. He's calling a grieving widow a liar, which is almost hilarious in its depravity.

I mean, unless he actually DOES have proof. In which case, what is it and where is it? Is this another Comey tape thing?

I guess he learned from the Comey situation. He has "proof" not "tapes" :chuckle:
 
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Yep that's what it is. Trump has just been misquoted this entire time! Face it, the man is a failed President. World leaders are already ignoring him and running out the clock for the next 3 years. He's an impotent, lame duck.

Time to focus on the midterms.

I wish. The president is many things but sadly he is neither impotent nor a lame duck. Rather he remains the most powerful man in the world.
 
What is it?

It's this private chatroom all the liberals go to so they can talk politics without getting challenged. :chuckle:





Anyway, Christ on a cracker he seems to have promised a military father $25,000 and hasn't followed through yet... Like, the gesture isn't awful and I hope the White House is telling the truth that he's sent this check rather than lying to a grieving father (even if they did it AFTER the press called). But if he really doesn't follow through this shit is cold blooded. And it's not like the rest of what he's been up to with these Gold Star families (lying about other presidents, saying "he knew what he signed up for"*) is any good. Like, can this guy do anything without being a bullshit blowhard about it? He bragged about himself in the middle of a charitable gesture that he may or may not have had any intention of actually doing.

*From the article linked above:

Cowanda Jones-Johnson, told The Washington Post that she also was in the car when the White House called, and said that “President Drumpf did disrespect my son and my daughter and also me and my husband.”

I said earlier it probably wasn't that bad in context, but if it bothered the family then he fucked up.

EDIT: The whole article is fucked up. Crazy how much grief football players got for protesting the national anthem in comparison to the presidential lying to and about Gold Star families.
 
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Taken out of context. He was saying that this soldier was brave for putting himself in the line of fire, even though he knew he could die. Has the widow deemed it inappropriate?

It must be galling when Trump himself torpedoes the talking points.

It wasn't out of context because he said it never happened.
 
It must be galling when Trump himself torpedoes the talking points.

It wasn't out of context because he said it never happened.
I said that before Trump said it never happened. The report says she has proof yet won't release it. Hmmmm
 
The politicization of the Trump call to the widow is just ridiculous. The stupid congress woman said the widow hung up
The phone and was crying. Of course she was crying, the President called to talk about her husband who just recently was killed! My God these liberals are in a frenzy over nothing. Gives me great satisfaction seeing them lose there mind. Get ready for a great win again in 2018!!!

I mean seriously it must be a heck of a slow news day when all of cnns breaking News is about Trumps call and that he gave another family 25k. IMPEACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
The politicization of the Trump call to the widow is just ridiculous. The stupid congress woman said the widow hung up
The phone and was crying. Of course she was crying, the President called to talk about her husband who just recently was killed! My God these liberals are in a frenzy over nothing. Gives me great satisfaction seeing them lose there mind. Get ready for a great win again in 2018!!!

I mean seriously it must be a heck of a slow news day when all of cnns breaking News is about Trumps call and that he gave another family 25k. IMPEACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you think this is a fucking game? Who are you to mock her pain and dispute the story considering the family confirmed it? What do you know of their loss or how people like them feel?


I said that before Trump said it never happened. The report says she has proof yet won't release it. Hmmmm

Hmmmm. I invite you to take the loss and do the moral thing rather than continue to degrade yourself by defending a man who has once again disrespected a Gold Star family. As someone who served and had friends killed, there is nothing so cowardly, soulless and disgusting than a person who behaves like this toward these families. I can't even muster the words right now to describe the rage I feel not only at that vile sack of shit you worship, but the continued behavior of people who enable him.


Trump says Congresswoman 'Fabricated' her Account of his Comments to a Soldier's Widow — but That Soldier's Mom says Otherwise

President Donald Trump on Wednesday said he had proof that a Democratic congresswoman "fabricated" her account of a call that he'd made on Tuesday to the widow of a soldier killed in an ambush in Niger earlier this month.

But that soldier's mother said the congresswoman was correct in her characterization of what Trump said, telling The Washington Post that Trump disrespected her son and daughter-in-law.

Rep. Frederica Wilson of Florida told the Miami ABC affiliate WPLG on Tuesday that Trump had told Myeshia Johnson — the widow of Sgt. La David Johnson, one of the four troops killed during a mission in Niger — that "He knew what he signed up for, but when it happens, it hurts anyway."

"So insensitive," Wilson told WPLG. "He should not have said that — he shouldn't have said it."

Wilson said she was riding in the car with Myeshia Johnson, who was on her way to the airport to receive her husband's body, when Trump called.
Wilson then told MSNBC on Wednesday morning that the soldier's widow was "crying the whole time" and that when she hung up the phone, she looked at Wilson and said, "He didn't even remember his name."

Wilson added that Trump "was almost like joking."

"He said, 'Well, I guess you knew' — something to the effect that 'he knew what he was getting into when he signed up, but I guess it hurts anyway,'" Wilson said. "You know, just matter-of-factly, that this is what happens, anyone who is signing up for military duty is signing up to die. That's the way we interpreted it. It was horrible. It was insensitive. It was absolutely crazy, unnecessary. I was livid."

Trump responded to Wilson's comments on Wednesday morning, claiming she "totally fabricated" her account of his remarks.
"Democrat Congresswoman totally fabricated what I said to the wife of a soldier who died in action (and I have proof). Sad!" Trump tweeted, though he did not elaborate. Shortly after that tweet, the soldier's mother told The Post via Facebook Messenger that Wilson's account of the conversation was accurate.

"President Trump did disrespect my son and my daughter and also me and my husband," Cowanda Jones-Johnson told The Post. Though she declined to elaborate, she said "yes" when asked whether Wilson's account was true, The Post reported. A White House official told The Post in a statement that Trump's "conversations with the families of American heroes who have made the ultimate sacrifice are private."

Speaking to the press during a White House meeting with the Senate Finance Committee on Wednesday, Trump again pushed back on Wilson's account of what he said.

"Didn't say it at all," he said. "She knows it. And she now is not saying it. I did not say what she said and I'd like her to make the statement again because I did not say what she said. I had a very nice conversation with the woman, with the wife, who sounded like a lovely woman. Did not say what the congresswoman said, and most people aren't too surprised to hear that."

When a reporter asked Trump at a press conference on Monday why he had not publicly mentioned the soldiers killed in the Niger ambush, Trump asserted that President Barack Obama did not call the families of slain service members — a false claim that was met with scorn from former Obama administration aides. Trump backed off the claim slightly when pressed further by reporters.

After the initial backlash to his comments, Trump told Fox News Radio host Brian Kilmeade to ask his chief of staff, John Kelly, whether Obama called him when his son Robert was killed in Afghanistan in 2010.

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-frederica-wilson-soldier-mom-2017-10
 
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