So Long, David Nwaba

[The Human Q-Tip]

I would pass. I really don't want Delly back. Hes a great energy guy but he really isn't really what we need.

Depends upon what you're looking for. He's not going to be a major contributor, but he's never going to be a distraction, bad influence, or problem child. To the contrary, he'll be a positive locker-room influence. And, he can run the offense as a backup. He may not help you get wins directly, but he's a good guy to have on a rebuilding team that is trying to build a positive culture.

He's a net negative given his contract, but we have other guys on this roster who also are net negatives given their contracts. And, they don't have the positive aspect of being a good locker room guy, etc.. So if we can trade one or more of them for him...why not?

 

[rastamon87]

Poor mans.

All this time I thought the Cavs were against Sir Dom because he had no three point shot(because he does everything else at a superstar level) and now they bring a player that shares exactly the same problem.

Talk about double standards...feels like a stab in the back tbh.

I really liked SirDom when he played for Canton and Cavs Summer League/Pre Season... could have been a nice situational defensive/energy guy... too bad the Cavs didn't really gave him a chance to show his stuff in real nba games

 

[buzzdog]

I don't see the comparison between Nwaba and Sir Dom. Yeah they're similar in that they don't have great handles, lack the 3 point shot, and both are solid defenders.

Somebody show me some clips of Sir Dom blocking shots both on the perimeter and at the rim the way Nwaba seems to do on somewhat of a regular basis, in addition to steals. If he ever did that I must have missed it. Nwaba is a threat to be a help defender who can close and swat any careless, lazy attempts that go up in his vicinity.

 

[stowfan]

I don't see the comparison between Nwaba and Sir Dom. Yeah they're similar in that they don't have great handles, lack the 3 point shot, and both are solid defenders.

Somebody show me some clips of Sir Dom blocking shots both on the perimeter and at the rim the way Nwaba seems to do on somewhat of a regular basis, in addition to steals. If he ever did that I must have missed it. Nwaba is a threat to be a help defender who can close and swat any careless, lazy attempts that go up in his vicinity.

Sounds like Kevin Love's new best friend. lol

 

[Nathan S]

I don't see the comparison between Nwaba and Sir Dom. Yeah they're similar in that they don't have great handles, lack the 3 point shot, and both are solid defenders.

Somebody show me some clips of Sir Dom blocking shots both on the perimeter and at the rim the way Nwaba seems to do on somewhat of a regular basis, in addition to steals. If he ever did that I must have missed it. Nwaba is a threat to be a help defender who can close and swat any careless, lazy attempts that go up in his vicinity.

Sir Dom averaged 2.4 blocks per game as a college senior, five times as many as Nwaba. Shot blocking is the one part of the game where he is obviously the better player.

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

I don't see the comparison between Nwaba and Sir Dom. Yeah they're similar in that they don't have great handles, lack the 3 point shot, and both are solid defenders.

Somebody show me some clips of Sir Dom blocking shots both on the perimeter and at the rim the way Nwaba seems to do on somewhat of a regular basis, in addition to steals. If he ever did that I must have missed it. Nwaba is a threat to be a help defender who can close and swat any careless, lazy attempts that go up in his vicinity.

That's a misinformed post...so yeah lol, you just missed it or just didn't watch him play.

All joking aside now,

Sir'Dom was a much better overall college player. Overall much better defender;

Had 7.4 DBPM as a senior, better stl rate(2.2 to 1.8 Per 40), much better blocking ability(2.8 to 0.7 Per 40) 94 DRTG and as a senior was the better offensive player in one of the toughest conference.(9 SOS)

Nwaba was not a good college player or a very good defensive player;

Had a modest 1.3 DBPM (0.90 SOS), As far as defense goes, he had Dom beat only in rebounding.
He was however a better offensive player in terms of point production and asisst numbers(only as a junior...he had lower career assist numbers).

I think the difference between them is that Nwaba actually took steps as n D-League and NBA player. His offense "translated" better in both compeititions.

Dom really didn't get a chance to play on an NBA team, but his defense did translate pretty perfectly to the G-League where he posted 2.5 BLKs and 1.7 STL as well as 4.6 DBPM. The issue is that his offense completely sucked(-3.9 OBPM).

To this day, I still don't understand how he didn't even get a chance to play on a team. His defense is legit and I liked his upside as a straight line driver as a finisher and a passer. He had legit rim protecting abilities and size to even play small ball 4.

I guess where Nwaba really blows him away is in IQ.

 

[inliner311]

That's a misinformed post...so yeah lol, you just missed it or just didn't watch him play.

All joking aside now,

Sir'Dom was a much better overall college player. Overall much better defender;

Had 7.4 DBPM as a senior, better stl rate(2.2 to 1.8 Per 40), much better blocking ability(2.8 to 0.7 Per 40) 94 DRTG and as a senior was the better offensive player in one of the toughest conference.(9 SOS)

Nwaba was not a good college player or a very good defensive player;

Had a modest 1.3 DBPM (0.90 SOS), As far as defense goes, he had Dom beat only in rebounding.
He was however a better offensive player in terms of point production and asisst numbers(only as a junior...he had lower career assist numbers).

I think the difference between them is that Nwaba actually took steps as n D-League and NBA player. His offense "translated" better in both compeititions.

Dom really didn't get a chance to play on an NBA team, but his defense did translate pretty perfectly to the G-League where he posted 2.5 BLKs and 1.7 STL as well as 4.6 DBPM. The issue is that his offense completely sucked(-3.9 OBPM).

To this day, I still don't understand how he didn't even get a chance to play on a team. His defense is legit and I liked his upside as a straight line driver as a finisher and a passer. He had legit rim protecting abilities and size to even play small ball 4.

I guess where Nwaba really blows him away is in IQ.

I really thought this summer was Pointers shot to make the team. It still makes me wonder why he didn't get an invite to play in summer league. After bring him in all those summers when we didn't realistically have room for players to not give him one last shot when we actually have roster spots open was puzzling. We also needed depth at SF.

It's odd how being drafted by a team creates some weird loyalty that rarely gets rewarded for these 2nd round picks. Deshaun Thomas is another example of a player who really should have gotten a shot from his summer league performances and he did exactly what the Spurs asked him by playing in Europe to never even get a shot at the NBA. I think if he pushed the issue the first year out of college and got the Spurs to waive him, he would have gotten a shot on an NBA roster. He looked like one of the top 5 best players in that year's summer league.

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

I really thought this summer was Pointers shot to make the team. It still makes me wonder why he didn't get an invite to play in summer league. After bring him in all those summers when we didn't realistically have room for players to not give him one last shot when we actually have roster spots open was puzzling. We also needed depth at SF.

It's odd how being drafted by a team creates some weird loyalty that rarely gets rewarded for these 2nd round picks. Deshaun Thomas is another example of a player who really should have gotten a shot from his summer league performances and he did exactly what the Spurs asked him by playing in Europe to never even get a shot at the NBA. I think if he pushed the issue the first year out of college and got the Spurs to waive him, he would have gotten a shot on an NBA roster. He looked like one of the top 5 best players in that year's summer league.

It's really puzzling that he just hasn't gotten even 1 chance with any team in the NBA either as a two-way or on a 10 day contract.

He was selected by Cleveland and had an agreement with them to play in Canton for the full season so we could have his rights-- Then he fucking vanished to Israel and played for two teams over there, after that he played for only 9 games in the Lebanese league only to leave again and sign for an Hungarian team. A few days ago he signed with Panionios of the Greek basketball league.

He was excellent in the Summer League. Thought he looked dominant on D and very much improved on offense.

Nwaba is a cool replacement. Sir'Dom Nwaba will be my next name.

 

[NobodyImportant]

This guy is the definition of NBA filler and I find little reason to be excited. I mean he wasn't good enough that the Bulls wanted to resign him. Pretty big red flag. His specialty is defense yet he really doesn't play good defense. He's a guard that shoots 65% FT and has as many turnovers as assists. His VORP last year was 0.1. He's at the age where vast improvements rarely happen. I just don't see how his signing merits 5 pages of discussion, lol.

 

[Jordan]

That's a misinformed post...so yeah lol, you just missed it or just didn't watch him play.

All joking aside now,

Sir'Dom was a much better overall college player. Overall much better defender;

Had 7.4 DBPM as a senior, better stl rate(2.2 to 1.8 Per 40), much better blocking ability(2.8 to 0.7 Per 40) 94 DRTG and as a senior was the better offensive player in one of the toughest conference.(9 SOS)

Nwaba was not a good college player or a very good defensive player;

Had a modest 1.3 DBPM (0.90 SOS), As far as defense goes, he had Dom beat only in rebounding.
He was however a better offensive player in terms of point production and asisst numbers(only as a junior...he had lower career assist numbers).

I think the difference between them is that Nwaba actually took steps as n D-League and NBA player. His offense "translated" better in both compeititions.

Dom really didn't get a chance to play on an NBA team, but his defense did translate pretty perfectly to the G-League where he posted 2.5 BLKs and 1.7 STL as well as 4.6 DBPM. The issue is that his offense completely sucked(-3.9 OBPM).

To this day, I still don't understand how he didn't even get a chance to play on a team. His defense is legit and I liked his upside as a straight line driver as a finisher and a passer. He had legit rim protecting abilities and size to even play small ball 4.

I guess where Nwaba really blows him away is in IQ.

He has been a great defender everywhere he has played. College, G-League, Summer League, Europe, and Israel. Unfortunately, his offense is so, so bad that it made it unlikely for him to get a spot on a team contending for the playoffs.

Still, I agree, it's odd that one of the tanking teams never gave him a shot. Hell, Liggins has been all around the league, and that dude domestically abused his girlfriend.

 

[stowfan]

This guy is the definition of NBA filler and I find little reason to be excited. I mean he wasn't good enough that the Bulls wanted to resign him. Pretty big red flag. His specialty is defense yet he really doesn't play good defense. He's a guard that shoots 65% FT and has as many turnovers as assists. His VORP last year was 0.1. He's at the age where vast improvements rarely happen. I just don't see how his signing merits 5 pages of discussion, lol.

I guess that really pisses on our camp fire. lol

 

[inliner311]

It's really puzzling that he just hasn't gotten even 1 chance with any team in the NBA either as a two-way or on a 10 day contract.

He was selected by Cleveland and had an agreement with them to play in Canton for the full season so we could have his rights-- Then he fucking vanished to Israel and played for two teams over there, after that he played for only 9 games in the Lebanese league only to leave again and sign for an Hungarian team. A few days ago he signed with Panionios of the Greek basketball league.

He was excellent in the Summer League. Thought he looked dominant on D and very much improved on offense.

Nwaba is a cool replacement. Sir'Dom Nwaba will be my next name.

I don't think he has gotten a chance because we have his draft rights still, no one can sign him. Like I said it's some weird loyalty that ends up ruining alot of these 2nd round picks chances of actually playing in the NBA. Maybe someone with better understanding of this can chime in but I think for us to lose his draft rights Pointer has to say he will come to training camp and the Cavs will then have to make a decision if they want to give him a roster spot or lose his draft rights.

Deciding to play in europe (and I guess the G-league?) before being waived allows teams to retain rights. I know Deshaun Thomas forced the issue a couple years ago and was waived at the end of training camp for the Spurs.

Edit: I now remember that teams have to offer a player a contract every year to retain their draft rights. If the player signs the contract then the choice has to be made to keep them on the roster or waive them by the start of the season.

 

[Cavatt]

This guy is the definition of NBA filler and I find little reason to be excited. I mean he wasn't good enough that the Bulls wanted to resign him. Pretty big red flag. His specialty is defense yet he really doesn't play good defense. He's a guard that shoots 65% FT and has as many turnovers as assists. His VORP last year was 0.1. He's at the age where vast improvements rarely happen. I just don't see how his signing merits 5 pages of discussion, lol.

The Bulls wanted to re-sign him I believe. He was waived due to the Jabari Parker finagling. I guess when they waived him he decided to look around and liked Cleveland.

He already improved more than anyone would have believed. He didn't get a single Division 1 offer when he left high school. He isn't supposed to be in the NBA at all. You can't tell what he can be because he already surpassed expectations by quite a bit at a late age.

 

[lbusiness]

Makes me want to keep Korver even more.

Sexton/Hill/Clarkson
Hill/Hood/Nwaba/Korver

Me likey (if you get rid of Clarkson for, say, Delly or someone)

Admin edit - Keep fantasy trades that have nothing to do with David Nwamba in the trades section.

 

[Jack Brickman]

This guy is the definition of NBA filler and I find little reason to be excited. I mean he wasn't good enough that the Bulls wanted to resign him. Pretty big red flag. His specialty is defense yet he really doesn't play good defense. He's a guard that shoots 65% FT and has as many turnovers as assists. His VORP last year was 0.1. He's at the age where vast improvements rarely happen. I just don't see how his signing merits 5 pages of discussion, lol.

It's possible they didn't re-sign him because they are paying about a billion dollars to Zach LaVine, who plays the same position. It's also possible that he didn't want to return to Chicago, or thought he'd have a bigger role here.

Teams lose guys they don't necessarily want to lose all the time, though.