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Back to the AJ Styles , Owens vote.

I think Owens generates a lot more boos than AJ styles. Smackdown doesn't even seem concerned about generating boos for their Heel Champion.

so does the vote represent more of Owens being a better heel or Aj styles getting booked strong or a mixture of both.


I wonder if we would see a closer percentage if the question was "which champion would you rather see defend their title. "
Raw just shits on Owens too much for him to get any good heat on his character. I mean i saw somewhere that since he's won the title he's like 1-9 or something crazy. He losses every week but wins at the PPVs. Back in the day that is NOT how they booked heel champs. Heel champs basically never lost so when they did finally lose the baby face got over.

I really don't get the logic with their champ booking these days. Making Owens look as weak as possible whenever Reigns is involved. Who is that supposed to get over?
 
Raw just shits on Owens too much for him to get any good heat on his character. I mean i saw somewhere that since he's won the title he's like 1-9 or something crazy. He losses every week but wins at the PPVs. Back in the day that is NOT how they booked heel champs. Heel champs basically never lost so when they did finally lose the baby face got over.

I really don't get the logic with their champ booking these days. Making Owens look as weak as possible whenever Reigns is involved. Who is that supposed to get over?

Well, Raw is basically about getting Reigns over right now, so what do you expect?
 
Oh man, that chant.

"Let's go Jesus, Jesus sucks."

I was fucking dying when they were chanting that. UK crowds are the best.

They also did:
"Heeeeey, Jesus. I wanna know...if you'll be my god."

Hilarious.
 
Oh man, that chant.

"Let's go Jesus, Jesus sucks."

I was fucking dying when they were chanting that. UK crowds are the best.

They also did:
"Heeeeey, Jesus. I wanna know...if you'll be my god."

Hilarious.


Night one was a massive success. The Tyler Bate kid at the end needs to get ripped from England and signed immediately. So. Fucking. Good.

They gotta leave this with one of him/mandrews/dunne/seven. Anything else would be a fail.
 
Night one was a massive success. The Tyler Bate kid at the end needs to get ripped from England and signed immediately. So. Fucking. Good.

They gotta leave this with one of him/mandrews/dunne/seven. Anything else would be a fail.

Was a big fan of T-Bone too.
 
Was a big fan of T-Bone too.

But it wouldn't be as big of a get.

I wasn't a big fan of this. There's UK guys they just didn't have the ability to get, or already poached, and those were the top tier guys. But then I fall in love with UK wrestling all over again.
 
Dunne Connors, Drake, and Bate impressed me. Only ones really. Tucker as well.

Fun tourney I'm glad it's only 2 days.
 
Dunne Connors, Drake, and Bate impressed me. Only ones really. Tucker as well.

Fun tourney I'm glad it's only 2 days.

Sweet jesus the superkick Tucker gave to Bate was one of the most brutal looking that I've ever seen. Bate sold that like a fucking champ too.

Also, Gallagher and Bate should be a tag team called The Extraordinary Gentlemen and they should be the tag team champs forever.
 
Raw just shits on Owens too much for him to get any good heat on his character. I mean i saw somewhere that since he's won the title he's like 1-9 or something crazy. He losses every week but wins at the PPVs. Back in the day that is NOT how they booked heel champs. Heel champs basically never lost so when they did finally lose the baby face got over.

I really don't get the logic with their champ booking these days. Making Owens look as weak as possible whenever Reigns is involved. Who is that supposed to get over?
Owens gets plenty of Heat.
His booking actually goes in line with how he got the championship in the first place.

I am Curious though if Ortons and Wyatt probable feud will have Bray as the Face and Orton as the Heel.


Great article here on the WWE killing Reigns in the Rumble

http://www.sportskeeda.com/wwe/royal-rumble-roman-reigns-worst-nightmare

I understand the WWE doesn't do things sometimes because it is expected but ROllins taking the title from Owens in the Rumble is not going to go over. No wonder what kinda in ring story Owens tries to spin. Once again another opportunity to turn Reigns Heel will be wasted.


and a related article about 5 moments the WWE should/could of turned Reigns Heel
http://www.sportskeeda.com/wwe/5-opportunities-to-turn-roman-reigns-heel-that-wwe-wasted

I especially agree with the this one

#1 Money in the Bank 2016 vs Seth Rollins

Reigns turning heel on Ambrose and Rollins coming out to the rescue would of been fantastic.
 
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Sweet jesus the superkick Tucker gave to Bate was one of the most brutal looking that I've ever seen. Bate sold that like a fucking champ too.

Also, Gallagher and Bate should be a tag team called The Extraordinary Gentlemen and they should be the tag team champs forever.
Those 2 could change RAW. Idk why WWE went away from characters and went to just wrestlers with regular names. Characters is what made wrestling great.

Only thing if you do that you might as well kill the Vaudevillians
 
Those 2 could change RAW. Idk why WWE went away from characters and went to just wrestlers with regular names. Characters is what made wrestling great.

Only thing if you do that you might as well kill the Vaudevillians
Why Vince already killed them
 
Those 2 could change RAW. Idk why WWE went away from characters and went to just wrestlers with regular names. Characters is what made wrestling great.

Only thing if you do that you might as well kill the Vaudevillians

Well, the main reason is because kayfabe is mostly dead at this point. People know wrestling is fake, and so most companies have moved toward making it an athletic showcase that highlights the abilities of the wrestlers as much as their characters.

To be fair, though, the WWE has always had (mostly) regular guys who succeeded. Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart, Hunter Hearst Helmsley, Steve Austin...they were all guys with regular names and were a far cry from more wild, unrealistic characters like Undertaker and Kane.

That's also the reason that Lucha Underground is so fresh and unique, because it just throws out all of that and is 100% kayfabe at all times.
 
Damn, that Andrews/Dunne match was fantastic. They made it look like they were trying to kill each other.
 
That damn one armed bicep curl with Dunne on him was so nice

Crowd ate it up


Great simple heel VS face dynamic and it worked
 
That damn one armed bicep curl with Dunne on him was so nice

Crowd ate it up


Great simple heel VS face dynamic and it worked

I thought it was really impressive how, over the course of two days, they got a crowd that was totally cheering for Dunne in his first match to turn on him and boo the hell out of him in the finals. Impressive booking.
 

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