Cavs Trade Deadline (discussion)

Love the trade.

That option to swap picks with the Lakers next year is perfect timing. Howard is staying with the Magic, and Deron will stay with Nets or go to Dallas. The Lakers can basically only get a very tiny bit better, or get worse.

Rich said:

Wait, why in the hell did the Nuggets trade Nene for McGee after just signing him to that huge contract this summer?

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Your answer is right there.

mhi said:

Your answer is right there.

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But...McGee? THat's all they get for the guy? I mean the Nets were ready to sign the guy to a monster deal...could they not have gotten something a little better out of them?

The deal itself isn't horrible considering the possibility of swapping picks.

But LOST in all of this is the complete FAILURE of the Christian Eyenga pick...a pick many people here defended.

The fact is the Cavs drafted a guy who was struggling on Ricky Rubio's JV team.

At at time when they needed role players to put around LeBron James, they took some JV player...even with guys like Dajuan Blair, Sam Young, Dante Cunningham, Marcus Thornton, Chase Budinger, and Jonas Jerebko still on the board.

Sorry, but it doesn't put me at ease as the Cavs move forward knowing the history the guy's running this team have.

What value is this extra 1st round pick if they just continue to make these mistakes?

I know some people are going to HATE me for being pessimistic on a day like today...sorry.

The Eyenga pick was garbage and everyone forgets about it now that he is gone as part of a deal where the Cavs basically gave away a guy who was playing well and fit their system.

At best, this is an average deal for the Cavs....and when you figure in the failure of the Eyenga "Era" into the equation, it makes me want to vomit.

InBoobieWeTrust said:

Orlando was probably going to get Lopez and Brooks, but the Cavaliers were going to be able to facilitate taking bad contracts from both teams and would have been rewarded handsomely for making the trade work.

(Plus, Ben posted the same thing I did in the chat earlier, and he actually has sources O= )

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See, now I really want to cut Howard.

Rich said:

But...McGee? THat's all they get for the guy? I mean the Nets were ready to sign the guy to a monster deal...could they not have gotten something a little better out of them?

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He does have a good sized contract.

Sw33tL0u said:

The deal itself isn't horrible considering the possibility of swapping picks.

But LOST in all of this is the complete FAILURE of the Christian Eyenga pick...a pick many people here defended.

The fact is the Cavs drafted a guy who was struggling on Ricky Rubio's JV team.

At at time when they needed role players to put around LeBron James, they took some JV player...even with guys like Dajuan Blair, Sam Young, Dante Cunningham, Marcus Thornton, Chase Budinger, and Jonas Jerebko still on the board.

Sorry, but it doesn't put me at ease as the Cavs move forward knowing the history the guy's running this team have.

What value is this extra 1st round pick if they just continue to make these mistakes?

I know some people are going to HATE me for being pessimistic on a day like today...sorry.

The Eyenga pick was garbage and everyone forgets about it now that he is gone as part of a deal where the Cavs basically gave away a guy who was playing well and fit their system.

At best, this is an average deal for the Cavs....and when you figure in the failure of the Eyenga "Era" into the equation, it makes me want to vomit.

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I'm sorry....is Danny Ferry still running this FO?

Sw33tL0u said:

The deal itself isn't horrible considering the possibility of swapping picks.

But LOST in all of this is the complete FAILURE of the Christian Eyenga pick...a pick many people here defended.

The fact is the Cavs drafted a guy who was struggling on Ricky Rubio's JV team.

At at time when they needed role players to put around LeBron James, they took some JV player...even with guys like Dajuan Blair, Sam Young, Dante Cunningham, Marcus Thornton, Chase Budinger, and Jonas Jerebko still on the board.

Sorry, but it doesn't put me at ease as the Cavs move forward knowing the history the guy's running this team have.

What value is this extra 1st round pick if they just continue to make these mistakes?

I know some people are going to HATE me for being pessimistic on a day like today...sorry.

The Eyenga pick was garbage and everyone forgets about it now that he is gone as part of a deal where the Cavs basically gave away a guy who was playing well and fit their system.

At best, this is an average deal for the Cavs....and when you figure in the failure of the Eyenga "Era" into the equation, it makes me want to vomit.

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The Cavs took a shot in the late first round(the LAST pick of the first round) at an uber-athletic home-run or strikeout type of prospect.

Plus, the Cavaliers did not need more "role players". I find that assertion laughable. The Cavs were missing something in the LeBron era, but it certainly wasn't a lack of "role players". We were already super deep at the time.

Missing on the 30th pick in the draft is hardly an egregious offense. There's a reason the Cavs are looking to add as many at-bats as possible, it's because there is a higher element of risk the later in the draft you get. I think you're being quite unreasonable here, to be honest.

Sw33tL0u said:

The deal itself isn't horrible considering the possibility of swapping picks.

But LOST in all of this is the complete FAILURE of the Christian Eyenga pick...a pick many people here defended.

The fact is the Cavs drafted a guy who was struggling on Ricky Rubio's JV team.

At at time when they needed role players to put around LeBron James, they took some JV player...even with guys like Dajuan Blair, Sam Young, Dante Cunningham, Marcus Thornton, Chase Budinger, and Jonas Jerebko still on the board.

Sorry, but it doesn't put me at ease as the Cavs move forward knowing the history the guy's running this team have.

What value is this extra 1st round pick if they just continue to make these mistakes?

I know some people are going to HATE me for being pessimistic on a day like today...sorry.

The Eyenga pick was garbage and everyone forgets about it now that he is gone as part of a deal where the Cavs basically gave away a guy who was playing well and fit their system.

At best, this is an average deal for the Cavs....and when you figure in the failure of the Eyenga "Era" into the equation, it makes me want to vomit.

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this post makes me want to vomit

Sw33tL0u said:

The deal itself isn't horrible considering the possibility of swapping picks.

But LOST in all of this is the complete FAILURE of the Christian Eyenga pick...a pick many people here defended.

The fact is the Cavs drafted a guy who was struggling on Ricky Rubio's JV team.

At at time when they needed role players to put around LeBron James, they took some JV player...even with guys like Dajuan Blair, Sam Young, Dante Cunningham, Marcus Thornton, Chase Budinger, and Jonas Jerebko still on the board.

Sorry, but it doesn't put me at ease as the Cavs move forward knowing the history the guy's running this team have.

What value is this extra 1st round pick if they just continue to make these mistakes?

I know some people are going to HATE me for being pessimistic on a day like today...sorry.

The Eyenga pick was garbage and everyone forgets about it now that he is gone as part of a deal where the Cavs basically gave away a guy who was playing well and fit their system.

At best, this is an average deal for the Cavs....and when you figure in the failure of the Eyenga "Era" into the equation, it makes me want to vomit.

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My feelings aren't quite as strong but I do believe Eyenga was a wasted pick. Was never a huge fan of it. Seems the Cavs were trying to outsmart everyone with it when it would have been better to take more of a known quantity. Not the end of the world though. Eyenga did start showing a little potential last year but completely fell off the map this season.
I thought Grant was the main voice behind that pick. I do believe Grant has done a very good job so far but he also needs to hit on later picks too. Irving was a no brainer but we won't know about the Thompson pick for a few more seasons and talent evaluation ability can show through with the later picks.

Sw33tL0u said:

The deal itself isn't horrible considering the possibility of swapping picks.

But LOST in all of this is the complete FAILURE of the Christian Eyenga pick...a pick many people here defended.

The fact is the Cavs drafted a guy who was struggling on Ricky Rubio's JV team.

At at time when they needed role players to put around LeBron James, they took some JV player...even with guys like Dajuan Blair, Sam Young, Dante Cunningham, Marcus Thornton, Chase Budinger, and Jonas Jerebko still on the board.

Sorry, but it doesn't put me at ease as the Cavs move forward knowing the history the guy's running this team have.

What value is this extra 1st round pick if they just continue to make these mistakes?

I know some people are going to HATE me for being pessimistic on a day like today...sorry.

The Eyenga pick was garbage and everyone forgets about it now that he is gone as part of a deal where the Cavs basically gave away a guy who was playing well and fit their system.

At best, this is an average deal for the Cavs....and when you figure in the failure of the Eyenga "Era" into the equation, it makes me want to vomit.

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It was the 30th pick in the draft. They took a huge gamble on him. I believe they undercut Toronto and looked to deal him to Toronto in a possible future Chris Bosh deal.

Who cares about Eyenga? I'm MORE than happy with the progress I've seen out of Alonzo Gee. That's who would be getting the bulk of the minutes that Alonzo has earned since they picked him up as an undrafted FA. So the Cavs FO deserves no credit for finding Gee? I can't say I blame the coaching staff and front office for choosing to go with Gee over Eyenga. At the time they made the pick for Eyenga, they didn't have Gee and he was always going to be a project player anyways.

The expectations for the team then as a contender was much different than it is now as we rebuild. The picks we are taking even in the late first are still likely to compete for significant minutes either as a starter or as a backup. Also, just like with Gee, they can compete and earn the minutes.

To me you're comparing apples and oranges. I don't see how you can be down on getting another draft pick (in a likely deep draft) and have the potential to move up further next year. All of these things are assets. Even if the Cavs themselves don't use them. They are collecting a TON of ammo.

Sw33tL0u said:

The deal itself isn't horrible considering the possibility of swapping picks.

But LOST in all of this is the complete FAILURE of the Christian Eyenga pick...a pick many people here defended.

The fact is the Cavs drafted a guy who was struggling on Ricky Rubio's JV team.

At at time when they needed role players to put around LeBron James, they took some JV player...even with guys like Dajuan Blair, Sam Young, Dante Cunningham, Marcus Thornton, Chase Budinger, and Jonas Jerebko still on the board.

Sorry, but it doesn't put me at ease as the Cavs move forward knowing the history the guy's running this team have.

What value is this extra 1st round pick if they just continue to make these mistakes?

I know some people are going to HATE me for being pessimistic on a day like today...sorry.

The Eyenga pick was garbage and everyone forgets about it now that he is gone as part of a deal where the Cavs basically gave away a guy who was playing well and fit their system.

At best, this is an average deal for the Cavs....and when you figure in the failure of the Eyenga "Era" into the equation, it makes me want to vomit.

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Guess we need to bring Wayne Embry back into this, as well.. I mean Danny Ferry for Harper?...sheesh..... Back away from the ledge, Sw33tL0u.... This was a good trade!

so the Cavs just paid $6M for a late 1st when they are usually sold for $3M. lol.
jamison is still wearing a cavs uniform. lol.
nets traded a lottery pick for gerald wallace. lol.
nuggets traded an overpaid nene for a retard who will also be overpaid. lol.
howard decided to spend another year of his prime in orl where he has almost no chance to win a title. lol.

lotsa laughing about deals today

eta: forgot one!

clips traded for another chucker when they sorely need defense. lol.

Eyenga was drafted almost 3 years ago, when Lebron James was still on the team. People laughed at him and called him spearchucker ete ete. If James had stayed, Eyenga would have never been on this roster or this team. His rights would have been dealt months ago.

We took a look at him, didn't like him and moved him. Nothing more or less.

Sw33tL0u said:

The deal itself isn't horrible considering the possibility of swapping picks.

But LOST in all of this is the complete FAILURE of the Christian Eyenga pick...a pick many people here defended.

The fact is the Cavs drafted a guy who was struggling on Ricky Rubio's JV team.

At at time when they needed role players to put around LeBron James, they took some JV player...even with guys like Dajuan Blair, Sam Young, Dante Cunningham, Marcus Thornton, Chase Budinger, and Jonas Jerebko still on the board.

Sorry, but it doesn't put me at ease as the Cavs move forward knowing the history the guy's running this team have.

What value is this extra 1st round pick if they just continue to make these mistakes?

I know some people are going to HATE me for being pessimistic on a day like today...sorry.

The Eyenga pick was garbage and everyone forgets about it now that he is gone as part of a deal where the Cavs basically gave away a guy who was playing well and fit their system.

At best, this is an average deal for the Cavs....and when you figure in the failure of the Eyenga "Era" into the equation, it makes me want to vomit.

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