Kevin Love Trade Ideas

There's one player I haven't seen mentioned here that I'd love kicking the tires on if the Cavs entertain trading Love: CJ McCollum. Don't know if Portland would trade him, but something like this would be great for the Cavs.

Cavs get:
CJ McCollum
Ed Davis
Aminu

Blazers get:
Love
Shumpert

Why Cleveland does it: Irving and McCollum become the most dynamic backcourt in the league. Cavs get a young, future All-Star in McCollum that is the same age as Kyrie. Tremendous shooter and playmaker. Shot 44% from 3 on catch-and-shoots. Davis gives us another solid big who is athletic, can rebound, and protects the rim. Aminu is a versatile 3/4 who actually played better at the 4 this year. Young guy as well.

Why Portland does it: They lack any type of post scoring. Love creates space for Lillard to operate. Love and Ezeli would be a great big combo and one of the best rebounding duos in the league. The Love / Lillard P&R. Portland could use another perimeter defender so Shump is actually a good fit there.

We could also include a guy like Mo or Dunleavy if needed. A trade like that would really give the Cavs a ton of flexibility in rotations and make them incredibly deep and versatile. This trade would also build a phenomenal young core with Irving, McCollum, Thompson, Davis, and Aminu all being under the age of 27.

Would love to see GSW try to defend this lineup: Irving, McCollum, Smith, James, Thompson. Talk about a nightmare. Put Smith on Iggy on D and you're good to go. The shooting ability of Irving, McCollum, and Smith would leave the floor completely wide-open for the Iso games of Irving, James, and McCollum.

McCollum is too short on the PnR switches. Having both Irving and McCollum abd the Warriors would have Durant shooting over that all day.

If we get another wing it has to be guys with lenght Butler Gay etc

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How good is cj I haven't realy followed him much. All I know is his dad worked at timken steel in canton which would be cool to have another guy from our state be on the cavs

There is no way u trade KLove UNLESS u get a Superstar in return. However there are two trades that could be intriguing. 1) KLove n Shump to SacTown DCousins n Rudy Gay. 2) Jimmy Butler n Taj Gibson for KLove n Shump. I think both trade would be beneficial to either team, thoughts

robinlorain said:

There is no way u trade KLove UNLESS u get a Superstar in return. However there are two trades that could be intriguing. 1) KLove n Shump to SacTown DCousins n Rudy Gay. 2) Jimmy Butler n Taj Gibson for KLove n Shump. I think both trade would be beneficial to either team, thoughts

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My thoughts? Simple. The Kings don't even pick up the phones for that offer. Hey we can younger and build for potential future by trading Cousins for picks and cheap, controllable assests. Or, hey, you know what. Fuck it, let's trade two of our best players for a back up shooting guard and Kevin Love who would struggle to defend with our schedule. It actually makes us a worse team than better,'we get take a an older player in return for the best center in the league and we get no picks or young cheap controllable talent to help build a future with. Screw the packages of young players and picks teams are willing to throw out way. Nope, let's just get worse as a team, get nothing we can really "build a potential future around" and give away literally one of the best trade assests we might see on the market the next few years.

Love this trade for the Kings

BLF2145 said:

My thoughts? Simple. The Kings don't even pick up the phones for that offer. Hey we can younger and build for potential future by trading Cousins for picks and cheap, controllable assests. Or, hey, you know what. Fuck it, let's trade two of our best players for a back up shooting guard and Kevin Love who would struggle to defend with our schedule. It actually makes us a worse team than better,'we get take a an older player in return for the best center in the league and we get no picks or young cheap controllable talent to help build a future with. Screw the packages of young players and picks teams are willing to throw out way. Nope, let's just get worse as a team, get nothing we can really "build a potential future around" and give away literally one of the best trade assests we might see on the market the next few years.

Love this trade for the Kings

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The other day you said that a potential Love trade would be centered around McLemore

I don't really think you understand Love's market value

robinlorain said:

There is no way u trade KLove UNLESS u get a Superstar in return. However there are two trades that could be intriguing. 1) KLove n Shump to SacTown DCousins n Rudy Gay. 2) Jimmy Butler n Taj Gibson for KLove n Shump. I think both trade would be beneficial to either team, thoughts

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Love himself is not even a superstar, a word that I use to describe less than 10 players in this league.

Chris said:

Love himself is not even a superstar, a word that I use to describe less than 10 players in this league.

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I think a lot of it just has to do with where you draw the line/define superstar. On the OBR people used to always argue over whether Julio Jones was elite or not and the argument always came down to where you draw the line of elite. Also this was debated every fucking day for like 3 years after the draft and was really funny which is why I use this example.

Minnesota Love was definitely a top 10 player IMO.

I think the situation he is in doesn't allow him to be a super star. I mean our best player plays best at Love's position. The same thing that happened with Bosh. If Love went to a team like Boston and was the first option I think he would regain that superstar status.

The Wizard of Moz said:

I think a lot of it just has to do with where you draw the line/define superstar. On the OBR people used to always argue over whether Julio Jones was elite or not and the argument always came down to where you draw the line of elite. Also this was debated every fucking day for like 3 years after the draft and was really funny which is why I use this example.

Minnesota Love was definitely a top 10 player IMO.

I think the situation he is in doesn't allow him to be a super star. I mean our best player plays best at Love's position. The same thing that happened with Bosh. If Love went to a team like Boston and was the first option I think he would regain that superstar status.

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For what it's worth, my superstars: LeBron, Curry, Westbrook, Durant, uh...fuck, I'm tired, there's a couple more I'm forgetting but IMO there aren't many. Obviously guys like Wade and I suppose Bosh? Would be in this category for me but I don't include them because of the current state of their careers. Minnesota Love? Hmmm, usually I'd have to say the player would need to be at least adequate on defense but Love's stats in Minnesota were mind boggling at times so I'd say he was pushing it, yeah.

The Wizard of Moz said:

The other day you said that a potential Love trade would be centered around McLemore

I don't really think you understand Love's market value

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Wow that's just a lie. When did I ever say a trade for Love would be centered around Ben? The only reference to Ben M I have made regarding Love over the past few days is when a poster proposed Love for Cousins and Ben M. I noted there was not way the Cavs were getting Ben and Cousins for Love. But if you can find the post I said a trade for Love would be centered around Ben M, I would love to see it. Not sure if you are thinking of someone else or you are trying to troll. Not sure.

BLF2145 said:

Come on, there is no way you believe Love gets you a return of the best center in basketball. And certainly not additional pieces. At best he gets you Cauley-Stein and maybe Ben M. w/maybe a pick or another role player. But not cousins.

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Here ya go. Forgot Cauley-Stein was also lumped in. Still think it illustrates you are way too low on Love's trade value

The Wizard of Moz said:

Here ya go. Forgot Cauley-Stein was also lumped in. Still think it illustrates you are way too low on Love's trade value

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You think Ben M, WCS and a pick for another player is low (or a role player)? I think that is exactly what Love will return. One to two starter type players, a valuable bench asset and/or a potentially a pick depending on how high. I am 100% sure it does not get you Cousins (who many would say is already the better player) and Rudy Gay (a borderline all-Star).

I used those players as examples since we continued to discuss the Kings and Cousins.

BLF2145 said:

You think Ben M, WCS and a pick for another player is low (or a role player)? I think that is exactly what Love will return. One to two starter type players, a valuable bench asset and/or a potentially a pick depending on how high. I am 100% sure it does not get you Cousins (who many would say is already the better player) and Rudy Gay (a borderline all-Star).

I used those players as examples since we continued to discuss the Kings and Cousins.

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While I can see why getting Cousins for Love + some assets might be complicated or looks like not a "fair" deal for Kings' fans, you definitely undervalue Love. He ain't a top 10 player based on the past 2 years but he can still be a good to great player as a 1st-2nd option almost anywhere. His skillset doesn't really exist elsewhere, his contract is great in this new market, he is still young n locked for 4 years. And sorry, but given how the Kings's roster is built, I do believe he would be a GREAT fit for them as a stretch 4 n rebounder with WCS or Koufos behind him.

Now I think your opinion on what Cavs could get if they trade him is crazy. You write that a so so Love + a back-up SG can't get a superstar like Cousins and you propose WCS who was a rookie, great defensively but not that much offensively and McLemore who has potential but who can't even be a starter for a crappy franchise...talk about a crappy deal and you just proposed one!

One last point, Gay has only 1 year left and while I like the player, he is not a borderline all star. A good player but at his position, you got Leonard, Durant, James, Carmelo, Butler, Middleton, Giannis, PG and you can even add Batum & Hayward which would be closed to what he is but are younger &/or with friendlier contracts. Rudy is a nice asset for a contender as a 3rd option but if he is your 2nd, then you are the Kings.

A Love for a Cully-Stien and Cousins deal I might actually do. I cooled on a Love for Boogie one ON one deal. So yeah I would ask for something else because to be honest at this point Love is the better player.

Snarly said:

A Love for a Cully-Stien and Cousins deal I might actually do. I cooled on a Love for Boogie one ON one deal. So yeah I would ask for something else because to be honest at this point Love is the better player.

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Thats maybe a bit too much Love + asset for Cousins might do the trick at one point in the season if Cousins become uncoachable again...
What I can't understand is what are the Kings' doing and I am sure 99% of the BB lovers are the same. I mean they want to trade Gay + McLemore + Koufos, all pretty nice or with potential players, cuz they signed: Temple + Barnes + Tolliver + an unknown Greek for their second unit. Guess they want to tank which would be ok if they had their draft picks but they don't till 2019 and Cousins could have left by then....Talk about a franchise without direction!

If you just think about it, before the draft they could have had the following core:
- WCS / Cousins / Gay / Affalo (FA) / ?
- Koufos / Kriss (8th pick) / Caspi / McLemore / Collison
Only Affalo & one PG to sign + a 5th big & Barnes as a 3rd SF of small PF if you want

But now they have:
- WCS / Cousins / Caspi / Affalo / ?
- Papagionnis / Tolliver / Barnes / Temple / Collison
I don't know how you can do worse than that save maybe if you deal Cousins for Crowder, Olinyck & picks!!!!