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Racial Tension in the U.S.

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  • Racial Tension in the U.S.

    Votes: 16 51.6%

  • Extremist Views on the U.S.

    Votes: 2 6.5%

  • Mending Years of Racial Stereotypes.

    Votes: 2 6.5%

  • Protest Culture.

    Votes: 1 3.2%

  • Racist Idiots in the News.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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    Votes: 10 32.3%
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Lord Mar said:
So we're basically calling natural "CIS". Got it.
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What's the unnatural element in someone having gender dysphoria? Transitions are not natural but being trans is natural.

Also, the discussion on where lines can be drawn in terms of attraction is one that I also struggle with. Usually what leaves me un-attracted to trans women is the uncanny valley of realizing they look like a woman but I can see the "man" underneath. It's a stigma and a hangup that I find difficult to get over. But even if I can state that a trans woman is beautiful, like with a lot of Asian models that have tons of makeup and work done and look gorgeous, the hangup still exists.

Some people say it's bigoted, I feel like you can't force someone to be attracted to non-cis people. Even with race attraction is complicated. I'm down for any skin tone but some people have hangups. And while it may be possible to train yourself out of that bias, is it really racist if you fetishize porcelain skin? It's not misogynist to be gay, but that's an oversimplification.
 
You cant force people to be attracted to people. Im not a bigot if i dont want to suck dick.

I dont think people are mentally hung up on dating specific races, its just natural to be attracted biologically to certain things. Every race is attracted to the opposite sex of their own race the most. There are patterns outside of this as well.
 
-Akronite- said:
What's the unnatural element in someone having gender dysphoria? Transitions are not natural but being trans is natural.
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Cause we live in a Binary Gender society. I understand the movement is to change that, but that's where we are. It's still the "norm" and anything outside that spectrum is seen as abnormal.

In a world of Black and White, it's tough to be Gray, so to speak.
 
Wrathe said:
Cause we live in a Binary Gender society. I understand the movement is to change that, but that's where we are. It's still the "norm" and anything outside that spectrum is seen as abnormal.

In a world of Black and White, it's tough to be Gray, so to speak.
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Normal =\= natural. Pick it up in the other thread please
 
David. said:
Every race is attracted to the opposite sex of their own race the most. There are patterns outside of this as well.
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Translation:

I am making an absolute statement. Now I'm going to contradict my absolute statement by acknowledging the existence of things outside the absolute I just defined a sentence prior.

:p

I dunno why, if I'm reading what you're saying wrong, but that amused me.

All the same, are you saying everyone is attracted to their own race more than any other (I wouldn't think the opposite sex portion matters in this, but whatever)?

I'd be surprised if that were true. I think it's just likely due to social inclinations that it plays out that way. I've known amazing women of all races and creeds that are damn sexy that I like to imagine I'd be into if it weren't for me already finding the best woman in the world. :)
 
David. said:
Normal =\= natural. Pick it up in the other thread please
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Consider my voice the continued presence of the rest of the world who doesn't know WTF any of that is you're talking about.
 
Wrathe said:
Translation:

I am making an absolute statement. Now I'm going to contradict my absolute statement by acknowledging the existence of things outside the absolute I just defined a sentence prior.

:p

I dunno why, if I'm reading what you're saying wrong, but that amused me.

All the same, are you saying everyone is attracted to their own race more than any other (I wouldn't think the opposite sex portion matters in this, but whatever)?

I'd be surprised if that were true. I think it's just likely due to social inclinations that it plays out that way. I've known amazing women of all races and creeds that are damn sexy that I like to imagine I'd be into if it weren't for me already finding the best woman in the world. :)
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Statistically, peolple are attracted to the opposite sex of the same race the most. Outside of that, there are other patterns, such as x race preferring y race secondary, statistically.

But that study didn't control for other factors, and I'm sure those are causal. I'm not attracted to a morbidly obese white woman as i am a philipino playboy model. Women aren't attracted to mute men of the same race w poor hygeine who live with their mom as they are to a person w higher social standing of another race
 
Wrathe said:
Consider my voice the continued presence of the rest of the world who doesn't know WTF any of that is you're talking about.
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Normal is not the same as (not equal to) natural. Lol.
 
Tornicade said:
Executive Order on March 13, 2017
Presidential Executive Order on a Comprehensive Plan for Reorganizing the Executive Branch
Presidential Executive Order on a Comprehensive Plan for Reorganizing the Executive Branch
EXECUTIVE ORDER

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COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR REORGANIZING THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered as follows:

Section 1. Purpose. This order is intended to improve the efficiency, effectiveness, and accountability of the executive branch by directing the Director of the Office of Management and Budget (Director) to propose a plan to reorganize governmental functions and eliminate unnecessary agencies (as defined in section 551(1) of title 5, United States Code), components of agencies, and agency programs.

Sec. 2. Proposed Plan to Improve the Efficiency, Effectiveness, and Accountability of Federal Agencies, Including, as Appropriate, to Eliminate or Reorganize Unnecessary or Redundant Federal Agencies. (a) Within 180 days of the date of this order, the head of each agency shall submit to the Director a proposed plan to reorganize the agency, if appropriate, in order to improve the efficiency, effectiveness, and accountability of that agency.

(b) The Director shall publish a notice in the Federal Register inviting the public to suggest improvements in the organization and functioning of the executive branch and shall consider the suggestions when formulating the proposed plan described in subsection (c) of this section.

(c) Within 180 days after the closing date for the submission of suggestions pursuant to subsection (b) of this section, the Director shall submit to the President a proposed plan to reorganize the executive branch in order to improve the efficiency, effectiveness, and accountability of agencies. The proposed plan shall include, as appropriate, recommendations to eliminate unnecessary agencies, components of agencies, and agency programs, and to merge functions. The proposed plan shall include recommendations for any legislation or administrative measures necessary to achieve the proposed reorganization.

(d) In developing the proposed plan described in subsection (c) of this section, the Director shall consider, in addition to any other relevant factors:

(i) whether some or all of the functions of an agency, a component, or a program are appropriate for the Federal Government or would be better left to State or local governments or to the private sector through free enterprise;

(ii) whether some or all of the functions of an agency, a component, or a program are redundant, including with those of another agency, component, or program;

(iii) whether certain administrative capabilities necessary for operating an agency, a component, or a program are redundant with those of another agency, component, or program;

(iv) whether the costs of continuing to operate an agency, a component, or a program are justified by the public benefits it provides; and

(v) the costs of shutting down or merging agencies, components, or programs, including the costs of addressing the equities of affected agency staff.

(e) In developing the proposed plan described in subsection (c) of this section, the Director shall consult with the head of each agency and, consistent with applicable law, with persons or entities outside the Federal Government with relevant expertise in organizational structure and management.

Sec. 3. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or

(ii) the functions of the Director relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.

(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

(c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

DONALD J. TRUMP

THE WHITE HOUSE,
March 13, 2017.
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Please try to stay on topic.
 
Wrathe said:
Spike Lee speaking out on Kaepernic not having a job:

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What's the implication?
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Well, I think Lee is implying that owners are holding Kaepernick's protest against him, and not basing their decision just on football considerations.

Perhaps he's right, but I see absolutely nothing wrong with that even if it is true. If Kaepernick is permitted to use the playing opportunity an owner gives him to make a political statement consistent with his beliefs, why is an owner obligated to provide him with such a platform? Especially if the political statement is contrary to the owners own political beliefs?

Kaepernick chose to make his roster position about more than just football. If owners choose to do the same with their own money, I see nothing wrong with that. You're not required to enable financially protests with which you disagree.

As a purely football matter....on just ability, he'd have some value as a backup. The problem is that the way he plays the position is so different from the way other QB's do that you have to completely change your offensive philosophy/scheme when he's in the game. And who wants to make that big an adjustment for a backup? Might as well get someone who can get the same results while staying within a normal offensive philosophy so as not to disrupt the rest of the team.
 
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The Human Q-Tip said:
Well, I think Lee is implying that owners are holding Kaepernick's protest against him, and not basing their decision just on football considerations.

Perhaps he's right, but I see absolutely nothing wrong with that even if it is true. If Kaepernick is permitted to use the playing opportunity an owner gives him to make a political statement consistent with his beliefs, why is an owner obligated to provide him with such a platform? Especially if the political statement is contrary to the owners own political beliefs?

Kaepernick chose to make his roster position about more than just football. If owners choose to do the same with their own money, I see nothing wrong with that. You're not required to enable financially protests with which you disagree.

As a purely football matter....on just ability, he'd have some value as a backup. The problem is that the way he plays the position is so different from the way other QB's do that you have to completely change your offensive philosophy/scheme when he's in the game. And who wants to make that big an adjustment for a backup? Might as well get someone who can get the same results while staying within a normal offensive philosophy so as not to disrupt the rest of the team.
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I agree, I think he's largely unemployed because his football skills aren't greater than the drama that comes w/ him. I think Kaep realized that and that's why he announced his protest was over in the hopes to tip the scales back to him being worth taking a chance on.

I have a problem assuming any positive intent when it comes from Spike Lee. Just based off of things he's said in the past, I'm automatically defensive when his name comes up. It's a shame. I was a fan until I realized he didn't want me to be.
 
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