The Transgender Issue

Jack Brickman said:

Eh...I just don't really see the point of policing who people are attracted to.

That said, if you're only attracted to your own race and refuse to date anyone outside of it, there's probably some racial prejudices involved.

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I do wonder what part is played by socioeconomic factors. This is an area where white males are genuinely privileged.

But yea you cant force people to be attracted. That said, if you're a dick in how you communicate it, youre a dick. I've never heard anyone communicate it in a racist fashion, sans someone literally claiming his dick was racist.

The Oi said:

I acknowledged finding those trans women attractive in that one video I posted. So yes, I've already admitted it and would do so again if a trans person looked like the type of woman I'm generally attracted to. No problem with that.

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Pretty gay bud

David. said:

Pretty gay bud

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GOTCHA!!!

David. said:

I do wonder what part is played by socioeconomic factors. This is an area where white males are genuinely privileged.

But yea you cant force people to be attracted. That said, if you're a dick in how you communicate it, youre a dick. I've never heard anyone communicate it in a racist fashion, sans someone literally claiming his dick was racist.

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Well, I was referring more to the type of people who think that white people shouldn't date outside their own race, and those people certainly still exist. The same types of people exist within other races too, so it's not exclusively a white racism problem.

But if you're a white guy who primarily dates white girls or a black guy who primarily dates black girls, people really aren't going to look too deeply into it unless you give them a reason to.

The Oi said:

GOTCHA!!!

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I'm just messing around. That was a noble admission Jig.

Man

Jack Brickman said:

Well, I was referring more to the type of people who think that white people shouldn't date outside their own race, and those people certainly still exist. The same types of people exist within other races too, so it's not exclusively a white racism problem.

But if you're a white guy who primarily dates white girls or a black guy who primarily dates black girls, people really aren't going to look too deeply into it unless you give them a reason to.

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Man we are awful at posting the right stuff in the right thread. Back to the race thread!

I've thought of this for longer than i should have, but out of 30 women, I've slept with 2 black girls and i think 3 or 4 of middle eastern descent. A few asian, a few hispanic.

Sd is 6%african american and generally pretty racially compartmentalized.. So that's a huge overrepresentation.

Wonder if that's a based on affirmative action philosophy. Black girls like"never been with a white dude before, fuck it." im like "lets see what this is like." or "ooh, egyptian, thats cool."

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I know this isnt representative, but ive seen younger friends on fb call this diet racism.

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Those people are idiots. And it is cognitive dissonance to be pro-LGBT (which I assume they are) and then also say attraction isn't hardwired but something that is influenced by social influences.

King Stannis said:

Those people are idiots. And it is cognitive dissonance to be pro-LGBT (which I assume they are) and then also say attraction isn't hardwired but something that is influenced by social influences.

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Id argue its partially based on social influences, but mostly biological.

When I was a little kid and had crushes on girls, it was always on white girls. I was also only really around white girls when things were starting to...move around. I wonder if that's the case with most people.

I have found that I have a mental block on attraction to East Asian women and the vast majority of black women. There are literally no exceptions on the Asian women and the handful of exceptions on the black women are ones with very "white" looking facial features and "white" looking hair.

On the other hand, I'm attracted to a lot of white women who have stereotypically "black" bodies, with bigger asses and wider hips. Thicker girls.

I don't have a "type" per se, as in there's not only one type of woman that I've always been into or fetishized, because there's a huge range of women I find attractive. Body type, skin tone, height, etc can all vary. But I am generally attracted to, and have been from even being a little little kid, "white" females.

I am definitely NOT attracted to women who are not white.

Don't know what that's about or whether that's common, but I have the feeling it has to do with the girls I was around early on when I started having crushes and playing doctor with girls and all of the early experimental stuff.

The Oi said:

When I was a little kid and had crushes on girls, it was always on white girls. I was also only really around white girls when things were starting to...move around. I wonder if that's the case with most people.

I have found that I have a mental block on attraction to East Asian women and the vast majority of black women. There are literally no exceptions on the Asian women and the handful of exceptions on the black women are ones with very "white" looking facial features and "white" looking hair.

On the other hand, I'm attracted to a lot of white women who have stereotypically "black" bodies, with bigger asses and wider hips. Thicker girls.

I don't have a "type" per se, as in there's not only one type of woman that I've always been into or fetishized, because there's a huge range of women I find attractive. Body type, skin tone, height, etc can all vary. But I am generally attracted to, and have been from even being a little little kid, "white" females.

I am definitely NOT attracted to women who women are not white.

Don't know what that's about or whether that's common, but I have the feeling it has to do with the girls I was around early on when I started having crushes and playing doctor with girls and all of the early experimental stuff.

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I think your second to last paragraph got jumbled in edit

The Oi said:

When I was a little kid and had crushes on girls, it was always on white girls. I was also only really around white girls when things were starting to...move around. I wonder if that's the case with most people.

I have found that I have a mental block on attraction to East Asian women and the vast majority of black women. There are literally no exceptions on the Asian women and the handful of exceptions on the black women are ones with very "white" looking facial features and "white" looking hair.

On the other hand, I'm attracted to a lot of white women who have stereotypically "black" bodies, with bigger asses and wider hips. Thicker girls.

I don't have a "type" per se, as in there's not only one type of woman that I've always been into or fetishized, because there's a huge range of women I find attractive. Body type, skin tone, height, etc can all vary. But I am generally attracted to, and have been from even being a little little kid, "white" females.

I am definitely NOT attracted to women who are not white.

Don't know what that's about or whether that's common, but I have the feeling it has to do with the girls I was around early on when I started having crushes and playing doctor with girls and all of the early experimental stuff.

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I think attraction definitely has a lot to do with your experiences when you are younger. One of my first girlfriends early in high school was an Indian chick, and consequently I've always had a thing for tanned/darker complexions and hair. This has ended up meaning that I date a lot of girls with Italian or Spanish backgrounds, as most of the girls I date are white simply because I meet them through my largely white group of friends, but that's really more a consequence of my social group than anything else.

I'm fine with Asian girls though. This smoking hot Asian bartender just moved in with my current girlfriend and for fuck's sake it can be difficult not to stare at her when she's wearing yoga pants and no bra (she has big fake boobs too) around my girlfriend's place. I really want to follow her on Instagram because my girlfriend showed me some pictures of her when she's all dolled up for work, but that's also an argument I can live without.

Jack Brickman said:

I think attraction definitely has a lot to do with your experiences when you are younger. One of my first girlfriends early in high school was an Indian chick, and consequently I've always had a thing for tanned/darker complexions and hair. This has ended up meaning that I date a lot of girls with Italian or Spanish backgrounds, as most of the girls I date are white simply because I meet them through my largely white group of friends, but that's really more a consequence of my social group than anything else.

I'm fine with Asian girls though. This smoking hot Asian bartender just moved in with my current girlfriend and for fuck's sake it can be difficult not to stare at her when she's wearing yoga pants and no bra (she has big fake boobs too) around my girlfriend's place. I really want to follow her on Instagram because my girlfriend showed me some pictures of her when she's all dolled up for work, but that's also an argument I can live without.

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Do they often make out with each other? Or shower together to save water?

Asking for a friend.

King Stannis said:

Do they often make out with each other? Or shower together to save water?

Asking for a friend.

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I like to think so.

Nm

Jack Brickman said:

That said, if you're only attracted to your own race and refuse to date anyone outside of it, there's probably some racial prejudices involved.

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Exactly. Racism, like gender, isn't as black and white as people once assumed. There is a massive correlation between people with racial bias generally and sexual racial bias, I'm sure. So it's just something, along with the transgender issue, that I'm continually trying to learn about from others rather than simply settling into my own feelings.

It's very interesting to me how the same movement is essentially trying to push this idea of sex-positivity and being welcoming of all orientations while at the same time policing people's attraction. It's not everyone's opinion but I've seen arguments that if a straight cis man claims they can't be attracted to trans woman, then they are transphobic. It's a lot to reconcile.

And then there's the issue of divulging that information on the end of a trans person. Let's say you only learn after the act that your partner is trans. That may change the way you look at them and the experience. So my instinct is to feel that trans people should be upfront about this. But this is a group that is disproportionately assaulted, even killed, for who they are. It can be dangerous for a woman to out herself essentially.

In short, I'm really glad I'm not trans because it seems like a shitload of work just to get by day to day. And that's why I try not to get too stuck and bitchy about the dialogue over language and treatment of trans people, because if changing my ways slightly can help someone with a tougher road get along easier, why not?