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NBA Finals | Game 1 | Cavs (0-0) @ Warriors (0-0) | June 1, 2017 | 9:00pm EST

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Triple-S said:
I'm struggling to think of what the Cavs could have done here.

Even people following the game were getting bored of the Warriors and their dumbass juggernaut team they built.

I'm not pissed at the Cavs. Just more so annoyed that the Warriors were able to land Durant and we're stuck with shit basketball as a result.
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[strikethrough]Ron Jeremy's brother[/strikethrough] Jeff Van Gundy had discussed the Warriors' finals window being 7 more years or 10 total due to the "sacrifices" that the Big 4 were willing to make (which, somehow, Durant could never figure to make when he played in a smaller market that, in spite of his co-star being supposedly "selfish," managed to almost beat his current mates.) 10 years total! :shakehead:

It would be horrifying if this happened (that said, I remember 3 years ago during the Melo Big 4 rumors, people on realgm had doomsday scenarios where the Heat managed to put 6+ max players on the roster on discounts, including Kyrie and/or Love in some scenarios, and we all know how that ended up.)

(And yes, LeBron's 7 straight finals are different because of 2 different teams, for starters, to refute another false comparison.)
 
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Northstar said:
I mean, who do you want to guard him? LeBron cannot guard him all game and try to score 35-40 points. He may have been able to back in the day, but he doesn't have that stamina now. Even on the Heat, Battier played Durant quite a bit. RJ is too slow. Not sure Derrick Williams is ready. Those are your other options.

At the end of he day Durant has 3-4 inches on LeBron too and is going to be able to shoot over him most of the time as well.

Someone mentioned bringing TT off the bench. I tend to agree with that. Unfortunately the Warriors play 5 on 4 on defense because they don't have to guard him. TT plus LeBron and shooters as the second unit seems like something we could try.

Frye also should get some run when Curry and Durant are on the bench. Deron-Korver-LeBron-TT-Frye as the second unit with the main play being a LeBron-TT or Deron-TT pick and roll.

Another thing is Deron sets some mean screens, but we had him out there with Curry on him and didn't use him to get Durant off LeBron. Fuck up Durant and get Curry switched on LeBron at the same time.
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I feel like they can put Shump on Durant but Shump seem to play Curry pretty well too. It sucks that they let Liggins go. The option to put Liggins on Curry would have been nice.
 
Los216 said:
Pretty much this. The Warriors weren't even shooting a scorching hot percentage either. They finished at 42%. Not exactly lighting the world on fire and that's with 20 turnovers.
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Which frankly is really discouraging. Even if we shore up those turnovers, they are bound to improve on that shooting percentage to offset some of them. It's really depressing.
 
a few points:

Since Klay is slumping so bad, they really have a "Big 3" at the moment. And unfortunately, 2/3 of their Big 3 outplayed 2/3 of our Big 3....by a wide margin (turnovers and assists).

Korver again with 0 points? WTF? This happened against Boston and it was inexcusable then, and its definitely now. He more than needs to "make up for it" in game 2. He needs to be HOT FIRE!!!

DWill....get your composure back. Just trash, along with his buddy, Korver. I'm hoping its the spotlight of his first NBA Finals, and he will bounce back in Game 2.

Refs....GET FUCKED! I know its supposed to be rougher for the finals, but the obvious favoritism is just too much. I don't understand it why its the same story 3 years in a row.
 
BannerYearz said:
It would be horrifying if this happened (that said, I remember 3 years ago during the Melo Big 4 rumors, people on realgm had doomsday scenarios where the Heat managed to put 6+ max players on the roster on discounts, including Kyrie in some scenarios, and we all know how that ended up.)

(And yes, LeBron's 7 straight finals are different because of 2 different teams, for starters, to refute another false comparison.)
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I think things can change real quick when max money is involved. The real question will be how much pay cut will Draymond and Klay take. What if someone like the Mavs or Heat clear cap room for both Draymond and Klay to come over.
 
Real Deal said:
@neversurrender

just wanted to see this poster's name because that is what we need to do as Cavs fans.
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(Maybe most of you are too young to remember this)
 
priceFTW said:
5) I thought they competed decently until the beginning of the third. We were within striking distance (although striking distance against GS is different than against others). They gave up 60 points on 61 shots and 8 fits which isn't that bad, A couple of defensive board and one or two opennthrees from role players and a Love making a layup and this could have been either a tied or even the Cavs up,at the half even though the Warriors shot 18 more times.
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I was thinking about this as well. The Cavs were competitive. It was around what, a 10 point lead at halftime?

However, there's really two ways to look at that: one, is the Cavs were "within striking distance" -- that sounds encouraging. On the other hand, a 10-point lead at halftime means the Warriors were on pace to win the game by 20.

What's always struck me about Golden State the last few years -- a testament to how dominant they are -- is that they virtually never fall behind huge. You either build a small lead against them, or you fall hopelessly behind. How many times have we seen have a close game, only to see them open things up and go on a huge run to build a big lead? It's not "back and forth" with GSW, it's either "hang on for dear life" or "oh shit, we've now found ourselves in a huge hole". It's just disgusting that a team that good added Durant. I mean, I'm sure I'd love it if I was a GSW fan (even if it felt a bit dirty), but man, it just sucks.
 
exactly how many points did we gave up today off turnovers?

damn we could've won this game if only we actually showed up!
 
My main concern with Korver and what he can give us this series:

I worry that he's much more comfortable and much better in a motion offense like the Spurs run and what he ran in Atlanta.

The Cavs play around with that kind of stuff against weaker teams and in blowouts but in tight games and in the Finals, they either chose to or revert to mostly ISO based Pick and Roll.

Concerned he's not going to get the types of looks and rhythm that best suits his skills the way that we'lol likely play on offense based on tonight and last year.

We've got practice time and games to change that but he's one of the guys we need to be scoring from deep for us to loosen things up and keep up on the scoreboard.
 
Turnovers and rebounding. That's the only thing that killed the Cavs tonight, especially in the 2nd quarter. 8 turnovers in a quarter should NOT happen.

Cavs lost the game when they couldn't do anything with Durant and Curry on the bench.
 
Well, this was expected.

Probably going to be the most predictable finals ever, to be honest. My problem is, if the Cavs are going to play like this (turn the ball over a couple dozen times) then they will be lucky to even win a game.

Just wasn't an acceptable level of play tonight, but like I said, not unexpected.
 
LeBro said:
I was thinking about this as well. The Cavs were competitive. It was around what, a 10 point lead at halftime?

However, there's really two ways to look at that: one, is the Cavs were "within striking distance" -- that sounds encouraging. On the other hand, a 10-point lead at halftime means the Warriors were on pace to win the game by 20.

What's always struck me about Golden State the last few years -- a testament to how dominant they are -- is that they virtually never fall behind huge. You either build a small lead against them, or you fall hopelessly behind. How many times have we seen have a close game, only to see them open things up and go on a huge run to build a big lead? It's not "back and forth" with GSW, it's either "hang on for dear life" or "oh shit, we've now found ourselves in a huge hole". It's just disgusting that a team that good added Durant. I mean, I'm sure I'd love it if I was a GSW fan (even if it felt a bit dirty), but man, it just sucks.
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We were able to impose our will in some finals games last year (and a few of their 9 regular season losses were of the WTF lopsided variety) but even in Game 3 when we won by 30 it felt for a while like the other shoe could drop at any moment.

Even though an 8-point lead as it was, means 16, you have to account for the home team almost always having the wind at their backs at the end, and the Dubs have been great at road comebacks at times too (see the OKC series.)

Of course, a 7-point home halftime lead is not necessarily safe either for them, as June 19th proved. :)
 
MirORich said:
My main concern with Korver and what he can give us this series:

I worry that he's much more comfortable and much better in a motion offense like the Spurs run and what he ran in Atlanta.

The Cavs play around with that kind of stuff against weaker teams and in blowouts but in tight games and in the Finals, they either chose to or revert to mostly ISO based Pick and Roll.

Concerned he's not going to get the types of looks and rhythm that best suits his skills the way that we'lol likely play on offense based on tonight and last year.

We've got practice time and games to change that but he's one of the guys we need to be scoring from deep for us to loosen things up and keep up on the scoreboard.
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Wish Korver made shots, but sort of can't blame him. Kyrie just doesn't make good use of Korver either. He's just out there to stretch the floor. LeBron guarding to Durant is going to have him standing around on offense some possessions/resting while Kyrie goes one on one. When we really need him moving/cutting so he can catch the ball and maybe find Korver in motion.

Hopefully we figure out how to involve him more. Although GS's athleticism makes it tough.
 
I thought offensive rebounds is where we could punish the Warriors. TT needs to BRING it. Love and LeBron are doing great on the boards, but TT needs to be the difference maker he was last year.

LeBron needs to cut down the turnovers. They were doing single coverage where drive and kick doesn't really work, and he was still doing drive and kick instead of taking it to the rim on some plays. When he DID attack the rim, he got to the line, which he should do more of. See y'all for game 2
 
If Durant is going to score 38 points, we mine as well throw JR on him and tell JR to play physical as he can since GS is allowed too, maybe just maybe it can work while LeBron helps off Klay and disrespects his struggles.

Listen, Klay could be hurt. This is the worst stretch of basketball we've seen from him in these playoffs. Basketball fans aren't used to this, something could be wrong here. We have to exploit him even more, dictate their offense and give the man 30+ shots.

LeBron is also at his best playing passing lanes and bringing help. I hope Lue is reading the internet tonight. Again, if KD is going to score 40, mine as well have LeBron bring the help.
 
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