Trade Rumor(s)

Cement said:

This also means Ainge and the Celtics are likely all-in with Isaiah Thomas and will offer him a max deal next summer.

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I'mWithDan said:

Here's why I hate it....

Historically speaking, your odds absolutely crash outside the top 2 players. It's a total crap shoot 3-14 in most drafts. Save for a few drafts (like 2003), you're almost never guaranteed a potential star past 2 (unless they are injured and you roll the dice).

I find it inexplicable that you would trade out of #1 in order to spin the roulette wheel on next year....AND to conversely pay someone like Thomas. I think this will ultimately lead to Ainge's firing.

The Lakers are most likely going to be improved via a combination of young players improving and them making a trade, a free agent acquisition or both. It's tough for me to envision them being a #1 pick type team but maybe I am wrong.

As for the Kings pick, are you kidding me? Who cares about that. That's two years from now. If you're retaining Thomas and trying to win now, why do you give a shit about a pick 24 months from now?

Also, I think Josh Jackson is somewhat of a shithead and I'm floored you're betting on someone like that in the top 3. Give me Fultz all day and move or walk away from Thomas if need be.

Fleeced is the wrong word because there is some unknown but this is nothing more that a total roulette wheel spin. If you trade down to 3 and then let's say get 7 or 8 next year, that is a complete whif to me. Especially if Fultz reaches his potential.

That's where I just don't get it. You already got insanely lucky spinning this in to the #1 pick and now you're trying to double down and do it again? I hate it. Passing on a player with Fultz length and quickness at the PG spot for Thomas and Jackson is laughable to me.

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I'mWithDan said:

Here's why I hate it....

Historically speaking, your odds absolutely crash outside the top 2 players. It's a total crap shoot 3-14 in most drafts. Save for a few drafts (like 2003), you're almost never guaranteed a potential star past 2 (unless they are injured and you roll the dice).

I find it inexplicable that you would trade out of #1 in order to spin the roulette wheel on next year....AND to conversely pay someone like Thomas. I think this will ultimately lead to Ainge's firing.

The Lakers are most likely going to be improved via a combination of young players improving and them making a trade, a free agent acquisition or both. It's tough for me to envision them being a #1 pick type team but maybe I am wrong.

As for the Kings pick, are you kidding me? Who cares about that. That's two years from now. If you're retaining Thomas and trying to win now, why do you give a shit about a pick 24 months from now?

Also, I think Josh Jackson is somewhat of a shithead and I'm floored you're betting on someone like that in the top 3. Give me Fultz all day and move or walk away from Thomas if need be.

Fleeced is the wrong word because there is some unknown but this is nothing more that a total roulette wheel spin. If you trade down to 3 and then let's say get 7 or 8 next year, that is a complete whif to me. Especially if Fultz reaches his potential.

That's where I just don't get it. You already got insanely lucky spinning this in to the #1 pick and now you're trying to double down and do it again? I hate it. Passing on a player with Fultz length and quickness at the PG spot for Thomas and Jackson is laughable to me.

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EdMonix11 said:

Celts are taking Tatum, not Jackson

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Triple-S said:

I'd be okay with Melo I guess.

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JMcCurry08 said:

View: https://twitter.com/wojverticalnba/status/876519819394338816

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David. said:

You obviously take Melo and give new york their peanuts

Better do something else tho bro

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billmac91 said:

This is good news if you're following as a Cavs fan.

The asking price just dropped significantly on him by floating his desire to sign with LA. This is how you play the game if you're George and looking to join a championship caliber team this off-season.

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I'mWithDan said:

Here's why I hate it....

Historically speaking, your odds absolutely crash outside the top 2 players. It's a total crap shoot 3-14 in most drafts. Save for a few drafts (like 2003), you're almost never guaranteed a potential star past 2 (unless they are injured and you roll the dice).

I find it inexplicable that you would trade out of #1 in order to spin the roulette wheel on next year....AND to conversely pay someone like Thomas. I think this will ultimately lead to Ainge's firing.

The Lakers are most likely going to be improved via a combination of young players improving and them making a trade, a free agent acquisition or both. It's tough for me to envision them being a #1 pick type team but maybe I am wrong.

As for the Kings pick, are you kidding me? Who cares about that. That's two years from now. If you're retaining Thomas and trying to win now, why do you give a shit about a pick 24 months from now?

Also, I think Josh Jackson is somewhat of a shithead and I'm floored you're betting on someone like that in the top 3. Give me Fultz all day and move or walk away from Thomas if need be.

Fleeced is the wrong word because there is some unknown but this is nothing more that a total roulette wheel spin. If you trade down to 3 and then let's say get 7 or 8 next year, that is a complete whif to me. Especially if Fultz reaches his potential.

That's where I just don't get it. You already got insanely lucky spinning this in to the #1 pick and now you're trying to double down and do it again? I hate it. Passing on a player with Fultz length and quickness at the PG spot for Thomas and Jackson is laughable to me.

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23Lebron said:

I feel like a dummy - that perspective actually never occurred to me.

I mean, how much is Indiana going to cheer for him, buy jerseys, or get emotionally invested in the team if they know he has already planned to leave and has even named another team that he (ostensibly) wants to be on.

If I were a pacers fan, that would be a kick in the gut. It can't make their front office happy. After reading your post, I think you are right - he's maneuvering to make something happen faster/easier.

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