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2017 Browns Off Season Thread

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The post was literally from Thursday

Since people said something about a previous post of mine before that one so I replied to it lol. I also do not know what day it is usually cause of work. I just know my off day is Monday and I am waiting for it so I can just relax.

Either way no point of saying any more about it since either I am right or dead wrong and we will know in due time.
 
Knock on wood, but it is good to see that our most significant injury loss thus far seems to be incurred by Ed Reynolds. Rat birds are going through all kinds of shit it seems.
 
Knock on wood, but it is good to see that our most significant injury loss thus far seems to be incurred by Ed Reynolds. Rat birds are going through all kinds of shit it seems.

Can we even call that a loss, or is it more of a blessing in disguise?

More reps for Nacua and Kindred at the free.
 
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EetnSoQfGA


THIS is what I want.

THIS IS WHAT I FUCKING NEED. PLEASE.

You guys were alive then? :chuckle: 26 years of dawg shit , Browns are the reason I'm a son of a bitchin' Cleveland fan.

I really do hope I have better days ahead instead of listening to stories how they used to be good. But hey, I'm reading the thread again, and digging posts. I guess I'm getting interested again.
 
You guys were alive then? :chuckle: 26 years of dawg shit , Browns are the reason I'm a son of a bitchin' Cleveland fan.

I really do hope I have better days ahead instead of listening to stories how they used to be good. But hey, I'm reading the thread again, and digging posts. I guess I'm getting interested again.

Lol no I wasn't alive then.

That's why I want that, I want to feel what it's like when the Dawg Pound is rockin' and we're actually good. Good lord it would be so glorious.
 
The amount of people left standing after the last 17 years of horse shit

And how passionate those people still are

Man, I hate when people say fans deserve something, but we fucking deserve a winner

If pittspuke had even THREE losing seasons in a row they would up and abandon the team. Proof: the pirates
 
Can we even call that a loss, or is it more of a blessing in disguise?

More reps for Nacua and Kindred at the free.

I wouldn't call it a blessing. At least not yet.

Reynolds isn't a stud to this point of his career, but he's a "safety net" for a flailing position. With him hurt, the need for someone to really step-up is imperative.
 
I wouldn't call it a blessing. At least not yet.

Reynolds isn't a stud to this point of his career, but he's a "safety net" for a flailing position. With him hurt, the need for someone to really step-up is imperative.

That's fair.

Similar to how Keys uses Tank Carder as a barometer for how talented our roster is, I feel the same way with Reynolds.

If he's on the roster, I know we aren't there yet.
 
This content is from the Athletic.

They've been doing a great job so far and have recently added Buckeye coverage as well for those on the fence about adding the app. I suggest you do! I certainly won't post all of their content as they try to get off the ground in the Cleveland market, but maybe a few interesting tidbits here and there.

First, here is a quote from Zac Jackson in his mailbag piece "Askin' Jackson" regarding his impression of DeShone Kizer in the early going:

DeShone Kizer has been the star of camp, and though I'm being careful not to crown him I'm excited to see him continue to develop. As are the Browns.

To add some context, Zac had some serious question marks regarding Kizer in his immediate post-draft piece a few months ago. It seems everyone is noticing that this kid may be a mega-steal. Time will tell, kids. Let's be optimistic--there's plenty of room on the Kizer wagon.

Below is Dustin Fox's latest write-up on camp from today. Interesting breakdown on Kizer--and he does note he wouldn't be surprised if Kizer ends up winning the job.


Fox's film room: On the road at Browns camp in Berea, and liking DeShone Kizer's play

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Dustin Fox
July 31 2017

BEREA, Ohio — Four practices into training camp, so it is time to take the film room to Berea and the Browns' training facility.

I’ve had the chance to be at several practices the past few days, and I have some observations of what I saw. First and foremost, this camp has a different feel than many practices in the past. It feels like we are watching a professional football team that knows what they are doing.

The thing that jumps out is the tempo of practice. The players are always on the move between drills without much down time in between. This is coach Hue Jackson’s philosophy. He wants to move quick and get their work in.

Some have questioned why the practices have been cut back a bit the past couple of days, and he actually gave a pretty good explanation as to why that is the case. He claims there have been studies done to show that early in camp, as the body starts to fatigue, legs become tired and soft tissue injuries occur. I feel like the “soft tissue” injury has been a running joke in Berea for the past decade. Jackson is trying to avoid that this season. OK, let's dive into a few of my early thoughts in camp.

Safety DeValve

Early on, it appears that tight end Seth DeValve might be a serious weapon in this offense. A fourth-round pick in 2016, DeValve looks set to break out. He only caught 10 passes last season, but looks as a key target in this offense. With the team starving for a legitimate threat at wide receiver, DeValve might prove to be that answer. He has tremendous size and athleticism to go along with his sure hands. It seems like every 11-on-11 period he's a target and making plays.

Kizer ups and downs

So far in camp the main story line has surrounded the quarterbacks, and why wouldn’t it. It has only been 20 years since we have had an answer at the position. DeShone Kizer looks the part, and he certainly speaks the part.

I have been pleasantly surprised by the way Kizer has played thus far. Obviously he has had his ups and downs, but when his throws are on, they look the best of all the quarterbacks by far. He’s a big kid who stands in the pocket and can deliver the football. The kind of quarterback that fits in the AFC North.

There will be a competition but don’t be surprised if the rookie from Notre Dame ends up winning the job. Keep in mind it’s early, but so far he's played about as well as you can expect of a rookie learning his first NFL offense. Courtesy of Jordan Zirm (Twitter @clevezirm), who was taking in practice as a fan, I have a couple of clips of Kizer to show you.

This first clip is an example of just how pretty of a ball Kizer can thrown. This is a three-step drop fade out of the gun. He recognizes the corner is playing a trail technique in cover 2-man. This means he has a small window to fit the ball in between the corner and safety playing over top. As you can see, he has tremendous touch on this throw.

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The next clip shows the ups and downs of Kizer’s play so far. This should be an easy throw from the gun as he’s trying to hit the slot receiver on a quick out. Because there is pressure and he holds on to the football a little bit too long, he fades away from the throw. You can see the ball is clearly off line.

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I think these clips do a good job of showing what we have seen through four practices. Some good. Some bad. The good news is that he is showing signs of coming along nicely thus far.

Gregg William’s scheme

The early impressions have been positive for Gregg William’s defense. Nobody has yet to get a beat on what defense he has played so far. It’s obvious his base defense will be a 4-3, but after that, it’s anybody’s guess. Gregg has lined up guys at positions that has everyone confused. And that is a good thing. He’s lining up players everywhere trying to find where they fit best. I have the sense this defense is going to be fun.

For example, one snap Sunday, linebacker Jamie Collins was lined up in the A gap showing blitz, then backed off and ended up running with the slot receiver all the way down the seam. That's the type of stuff you can expect this fall.

Overall, I think camp is off to a good start, and I can’t wait to see these guys in more “live” action come the Orange and Brown scrimmage Friday. I’ll be back with more highlights from this week’s practice as well as the scrimmage in next week’s Fox’s Film Room. Talk to you then!
 
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This content is from the Athletic.

They've been doing a great job so far and have recently added Buckeye coverage as well for those on the fence about adding the app. I suggest you do! I certainly won't post all of their content as they try to get off the ground in the Cleveland market, but maybe a few interesting tidbits here and there.

First, here is a quote from Zac Jackson in his mailbag piece "Askin' Jackson" regarding his impression of DeShone Kizer in the early going:



To add some context, Zac had some serious question marks regarding Kizer in his immediate post-draft piece a few months ago. It seems everyone is noticing that this kid may be a mega-steal. Time will tell, kids. Let's be optimistic--there's plenty of room on the Kizer wagon.

Below is Dustin Fox's latest write-up on camp from today. Interesting breakdown on Kizer--and he does note he wouldn't be surprised if Kizer ends up winning the job.


Fox's film room: On the road at Browns camp in Berea, and liking DeShone Kizer's play

USATSI_10182267-1024x641.jpg

Dustin Fox
July 31 2017

BEREA, Ohio — Four practices into training camp, so it is time to take the film room to Berea and the Browns' training facility.

I’ve had the chance to be at several practices the past few days, and I have some observations of what I saw. First and foremost, this camp has a different feel than many practices in the past. It feels like we are watching a professional football team that knows what they are doing.

The thing that jumps out is the tempo of practice. The players are always on the move between drills without much down time in between. This is coach Hue Jackson’s philosophy. He wants to move quick and get their work in.

Some have questioned why the practices have been cut back a bit the past couple of days, and he actually gave a pretty good explanation as to why that is the case. He claims there have been studies done to show that early in camp, as the body starts to fatigue, legs become tired and soft tissue injuries occur. I feel like the “soft tissue” injury has been a running joke in Berea for the past decade. Jackson is trying to avoid that this season. OK, let's dive into a few of my early thoughts in camp.

Safety DeValve

Early on, it appears that tight end Seth DeValve might be a serious weapon in this offense. A fourth-round pick in 2016, DeValve looks set to break out. He only caught 10 passes last season, but looks as a key target in this offense. With the team starving for a legitimate threat at wide receiver, DeValve might prove to be that answer. He has tremendous size and athleticism to go along with his sure hands. It seems like every 11-on-11 period he's a target and making plays.

Kizer ups and downs

So far in camp the main story line has surrounded the quarterbacks, and why wouldn’t it. It has only been 20 years since we have had an answer at the position. DeShone Kizer looks the part, and he certainly speaks the part.

I have been pleasantly surprised by the way Kizer has played thus far. Obviously he has had his ups and downs, but when his throws are on, they look the best of all the quarterbacks by far. He’s a big kid who stands in the pocket and can deliver the football. The kind of quarterback that fits in the AFC North.

There will be a competition but don’t be surprised if the rookie from Notre Dame ends up winning the job. Keep in mind it’s early, but so far he's played about as well as you can expect of a rookie learning his first NFL offense. Courtesy of Jordan Zirm (Twitter @clevezirm), who was taking in practice as a fan, I have a couple of clips of Kizer to show you.

This first clip is an example of just how pretty of a ball Kizer can thrown. This is a three-step drop fade out of the gun. He recognizes the corner is playing a trail technique in cover 2-man. This means he has a small window to fit the ball in between the corner and safety playing over top. As you can see, he has tremendous touch on this throw.

IMG_5916.GIF.gif


The next clip shows the ups and downs of Kizer’s play so far. This should be an easy throw from the gun as he’s trying to hit the slot receiver on a quick out. Because there is pressure and he holds on to the football a little bit too long, he fades away from the throw. You can see the ball is clearly off line.

IMG_5917.GIF.gif


I think these clips do a good job of showing what we have seen through four practices. Some good. Some bad. The good news is that he is showing signs of coming along nicely thus far.

Gregg William’s scheme

The early impressions have been positive for Gregg William’s defense. Nobody has yet to get a beat on what defense he has played so far. It’s obvious his base defense will be a 4-3, but after that, it’s anybody’s guess. Gregg has lined up guys at positions that has everyone confused. And that is a good thing. He’s lining up players everywhere trying to find where they fit best. I have the sense this defense is going to be fun.

For example, one snap Sunday, linebacker Jamie Collins was lined up in the A gap showing blitz, then backed off and ended up running with the slot receiver all the way down the seam. That's the type of stuff you can expect this fall.

Overall, I think camp is off to a good start, and I can’t wait to see these guys in more “live” action come the Orange and Brown scrimmage Friday. I’ll be back with more highlights from this week’s practice as well as the scrimmage in next week’s Fox’s Film Room. Talk to you then!
That throw on the sideline made my shorts tighter.
 
I want him to win the job outright before the season starts so badly..

There seems to be a lot of smoke that way coming from a lot of the media watching. This is only ignited further by the fact that Hue and David Lee are smiling out the sides of their mouths when they try to temper expectations on the kid.

There's still a lot of time left in camp, but if he continues to progress ahead of schedule, this is where it is all pointing to.

I remember a little buzz on Russell Wilson turning heads in camp a few years ago in Seattle. Smoke rolled in that he was going to beat out Flynn. Next thing we knew, he was the guy to beat in late August.

Here, Kizer has the luxury of no real good option to beat out. Don't be surprised if they miss their supposed early August deadline to name a starter, though. That would be a sign it's the rookie's gig but they want him to continue to earn it.
 

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