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Trump and Putin could've hacked voting machines over Moscow mules and Russian strippers for all I care. Hillary was stopped.
This is the most un-American post in the history of the board. Congrats, man.

This is a really, really bad look. Winning an election is NEVER worth compromising American institutions. What the hell are you thinking?
 
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I don't believe those first two communications, as described, are actually illegal. I'm aware of the Logan Act, but believe there is no way it would be found valid or enforceable, particularly in this context.

Taken literally - which is the only way to take it and have it apply to Flynn - any time a private citizen expressses a wish or desire regarding what they'd like to see a foreign government do, that would be a violation. The reality is that happens on more than a daily basis. There are uncountable speeches, lectures, conferences, meetings, pronouncements, etc., in which private America citizens urge foreign countries to act in a certain way. Commentators routinely due that on TV, all the time.

Fuck, we've had private Americans do that consistently whenever hostages have been taken, even against the express wishes of the President.

lol.........

It's done dude. What he did was indeed illegal. He also lied about it to the FBI four times and plead guilty and admitted to it today. He flipped. End of story. The only question is who he is incriminating. Well let's take a look at all of our options here.


Michael Flynn was The National Security Advisor to President Trump. There are only 3 possible people who Flynn could've flipped on.

Sessions - This is highly unlikely since it is too late in the game to flip on Session.(Sessions has already perjured himself multiple times) Sessions would be a lateral move not a move up the chain.

That only leaves two people........

Mike Pence
Donald Trump

Check......
 
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This is the most un-American post in the history of the board.

Congrats, man. This is a really, really bad look.

Winning an election is NEVER worth compromising American institutions. What the hell are you thinking?
I do not care. Stopping hillary was priority #1. She would've been America's Merkel.
 
https://www.thedailybeast.com/abc-flynn-to-testify-trump-ordered-him-to-talk-to-russians

Uh oh

"Michael Flynn will reportedly testify that President Trump instructed him to make contact with Russians during the 2016 presidential campaign, ABC News reported on Friday. “[Flynn] is prepared to testify...against President Trump, against members of the Trump family, and others in the White House,” Brian Ross reported. He added that Flynn’s testimony, as such, would “contradict all that President Trump has said up to this moment.” Flynn, Trump’s former national-security adviser, pleaded guilty Friday to charges that he misled the FBI during a January 2017 interview."
 
I do not care. Stopping hillary was priority #1. She would've been America's Merkel.

I'm not gonna touch this take given what happened last time... Uh, okay let me focus on the positive uhhhhh I honestly feel like I've enjoyed your posts more and more over the last couple months even though we still disagree on so much. And this take is still really awful. Damn it.
 
Dude you should probably step away for a minute. Think about what you are saying. Now think about who might see this. Now think again.
I really could not care less about Russia. If Trump or anyone else committed a crime then put them in prison. President Pence would be better anyone. Regardless of what happens I will not regret my vote because the alternative was much worse.
 
Dude you should probably step away for a minute. Think about what you are saying. Now think about who might see this. Now think again.

I think it's refreshing. I disagree vehemently with his stance, but at least it's not a meme, "what about X," or "nothing burger" post. We all know where mediumballer stands now.
 
I don't believe those first two communications, as described, are actually illegal. I'm aware of the Logan Act, but believe there is no way it would be found valid or enforceable, particularly in this context.

Taken literally - which is the only way to take it and have it apply to Flynn - any time a private citizen expressses a wish or desire regarding what they'd like to see a foreign government do, that would be a violation. The reality is that happens on more than a daily basis. There are uncountable speeches, lectures, conferences, meetings, pronouncements, etc., in which private America citizens urge foreign countries to act in a certain way. Commentators routinely due that on TV, all the time.

Fuck, we've had private Americans do that consistently whenever hostages have been taken, even against the express wishes of the President.
Former President Carter essentially negotiated a nuke deal with North Korea, amd presented it to Clinton despite being asked not to do so.

Logan Act is toast.

There is more context out now....The Obama Administration, specifically Susan Rice, felt the Trump transition team "was getting out in front of their skis" and undermining the current administration. The outgoing administration knew the Trump Transition team, specifically Flynn, was contacting nations within the UN to discuss specific sanctions...including Russia.

I originally typed it wrong as well. Flynn never lied to the FBI about reaching out to UN nations while in transition. They viewed that act as illegal, and he admitted he had done it at the request of a senior campaign official.

Ultimately, at worst he was looking at 60 years of prison for the charges. What he's accused of doing, in no way, shape, or form would be considered worth 60 years of jail-time. Obviously the government will hold charges over his head to get him to cooperate, but the 3 charges they used today, obviously show minor level stuff......actually stuff just about all transition teams have done in some shape or form. Even Obama's team had foreign communications with Iran and Hamas during his presidential run, in which a senior member of the campaign (Robert Malley) had to step down for the illegal contact.
 
I think it's refreshing. I disagree vehemently with his stance, but at least it's not a meme, "what about X," or "nothing burger" post. We all know where mediumballer stands now.
I guess you're right. At least he's honest. I just think a stance like that forces people to relinquish the right to call themselves true patriots or the "Party of Lincoln."
 

That report says "Trump transition officials". Which, yes, that was when Trump was already elected president. He admitted to FBI he reached out to Russia among other countries about UN Sanctions.

The question right now is whether Trump directly asked Flynn to work with Russian officials as a presidential candidate...not during the transition, and if he did as a candidate, what was it in regards to....

That tweet isn't really further confirmation of anything that important. Flynn was undermining outgoing administration by reaching out to UN contacts asking them to sit tight until new administration came in.
 
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