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CBBI said:
You don’t even believe this this.
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I thought there was no way the Browns were going to secure Eliot Wolf after locking in Highsmith, yet here we are. Take a look around the league:

Shurmur is one of the hottest head coaching candidates, along with DeFilippo. Shanahan has control of one of the up and coming franchises in the league. Heck, even ol' Norv just got a job calling plays for a former MVP quarterback.

What's better for a resume than one year calling plays in Cleveland?
 
Randolphkeys said:
I thought there was no way the Browns were going to secure Eliot Wolf after locking in Highsmith, yet here we are. Take a look around the league:
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There's a universe of difference between being asked to join 1) a newly-hired front office led by a well-respected guy like Dorsey, versus 2) a coaching staff under a joke of a coach who is on incredibly thin ice.

What's better for a resume than one year calling plays in Cleveland?
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Some guys look at a prospective job as more than just a one-year resume builder that requires them to uproot their family, then look for a new job next off-season.
 
The Human Q-Tip said:
There's a universe of difference between being asked to join 1) a newly-hired front office led by a well-respected guy like Dorsey, versus 2) a coaching staff under a joke of a coach who is on incredibly thin ice.



Some guys look at a prospective job as more than just a one-year resume builder that requires them to uproot their family, then look for a new job next off-season.
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Some of my modest proposal for optimism was tongue in cheek. But it's January, weekend of the Conference Semis. Hue already put two assistant coaches in place for the passing game who he feels comfortable with, who he can delegate important jobs to.

Let's say New Orleans gets bounced by the Vikings this weekend, suddenly a former OC who has had some success, Joe Lombardi, is ready to find a promotion. Maybe two weeks from now after Pittsburgh loses to New England, native Clevelander Randy Fichter will want to leave his longtime QB coach position for more say in an offense. If none of these work out, I could see a combination of Alex Van Pelt as passing coordinator and Edgar Bennett as running game coordinator, with some encouragement from the Green and Yellow front office.

There's too many good scenarios to go negative just yet.
 
Randolphkeys said:
Some of my modest proposal for optimism was tongue in cheek. But it's January, weekend of the Conference Semis. Hue already put two assistant coaches in place for the passing game who he feels comfortable with, who he can delegate important jobs to.

Let's say New Orleans gets bounced by the Vikings this weekend, suddenly a former OC who has had some success, Joe Lombardi, is ready to find a promotion. Maybe two weeks from now after Pittsburgh loses to New England, native Clevelander Randy Fichter will want to leave his longtime QB coach position for more say in an offense. If none of these work out, I could see a combination of Alex Van Pelt as passing coordinator and Edgar Bennett as running game coordinator, with some encouragement from the Green and Yellow front office.

There's too many good scenarios to go negative just yet.
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What is the argument for this not being the worst OC coordinator job in the league?
 
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In the past ten years the Browns have never finished in the top two thirds of NFL offense, just once finishing 24th overall in 2012. They were in the bottom five each other season. A more compelling question than "What is the argument for this not being the worst OC coordinator job in the league?" would be "when hasn't this been the worst OC job in the league?"

And yet without much promise at any offensive skill position in a decade, the Browns have hired decent up and coming coordinators throughout the dismal run. The problem has typically been a lack of talent, not the coaches who found success elsewhere later on.
 
Brian Schottenheimer heading to Seattle as their OC.

Proving once again that nepotism and the concept of failing upward is alive and well in the league.
 
AZ_ said:
Brian Schottenheimer heading to Seattle as their OC.

Proving once again that nepotism and the concept of failing upward is alive and well in the league.
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The NFL is hilarious.

You can be TERRIBLE at a certain role, get demoted down to a lesser role and still somehow rehabilitate your image to the point where you can get a second or even third chance at the role you failed at.

Kind of amazing really.
 
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CBBI said:
The NFL is hilarious.

You can be TERRIBLE at a certain role, get demoted down to a lesser role and still somehow rehabilitate your image to the point where you can get a second or even third chance at the role you failed at.

Kind of amazing really.
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One thing the NFL is bad at is trying hard to tell fans how insanely difficult coaching and knowing football is while also proving that you can be really bad at it and somehow be a sought after commodity.

They also try really hard and change the rules to enhance the viewing experience and cater the game to casual fans but still manage to find a way to have a lot of garbage on display. And they don't guarantee the players contracts in the most dangerous sport while telling you how safe they're making it. Ver amazing.
 
Olivio was god awful. The Broncos had terrible special teams.

Right up Hue's alley
 
It didn’t think it was possible to have someone worse than tabor. But we just might.

Just make Al Saunders the ST coach. I’m sure he can figure it out. He’s been around for like 40 years.
 
One thing to note about Olivo.

He was Dave Toub’s ST assistant in Kansas City for three years from 2014-2016, so he’s obviously someone Dorsey knows and is familiar with.

Then again, Tabor himself was a former Toub assistant and we all wanted to run him out of town.
 
Norm said:
Correct me if I'm way off base, but wasn't it reported that Hue spent more time with kizer than our actual QB coach? Might explain why he was let go.
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Unless the source on that report is Kizer (it's Hue), I wouldn't believe it for a second.
 
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