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AZ_ said:
Is it not relevant to the discussion, given Trump announcing that he will now be advocating for teaches to have guns in classrooms?

I don't understand the philosophy with regards to not bringing in historical context from the President as a means for discussing policy platforms he's releasing today.

If he flip flops on an issue, or anyone does for that matter, is that not relevant to a political discussion?


The disdain comes when that information doesn't match up with the preconceived notions or argument someone else is trying to make.

While that is unfortunate, it's also relevant. Where I would draw the line with that is someone using some sort of unsourced nonsense on Twitter to bait and troll.

I posted something from the President of the United States.
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I think what @pr26 is saying is that you should add something to the tweet that isn't purely snark.

I agree with you though; we have normalized what seems benign, and in reality, yes, you did just quote the President of the United States on his public forum of choice. It is always wholly relevant to a political conversation.

But as @King Stannis and @The Human Q-Tip are saying, we're not going to sit around policing post length; it's just too much. Instead, post quality should be the focus.

We're all S34 members, so we understand what that means.

@Cratylus, that should address some of your concerns as well, I think, right?
 
The Human Q-Tip said:
I honestly don't get this.

Conservatives - especially libertarian-leaning conservatives - are supposed to believe in self-reliance and self-discipline rather than government intervention. It's our job to protect ourselves from our own bad choices, not the governments to tell us what we can or can't do. And certainly not the government's job to protect us from being offended by other people.

So why is it that conservatives in this thread seem to keep demanding that the powers that be here place more restrictions on posts?

If you don't want to read a long post, don't read it. If you don't want short tweets, then ignore them. If there are other posters who annoy you, just ignore their posts in this forum.

Nobody is forced to engage with anyone else here.

Why isn't that enough??
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I would add, in case it was missed in my first response about Tweeting, that as long as a post is within RCF guidelines it is acceptable.

In other words, we can't ban Tweets or other types of media links on principle. It isn't on the table. Never was.

And, we just received clarification from the Man himself.
 
Strange,
The Human Q-Tip said:
I honestly don't get this.

Conservatives - especially libertarian-leaning conservatives - are supposed to believe in self-reliance and self-discipline rather than government intervention. It's our job to protect ourselves from our own bad choices, not the governments to tell us what we can or can't do. And certainly not the government's job to protect us from being offended by other people.

So why is it that conservatives in this thread seem to keep demanding that the powers that be here place more restrictions on posts?

If you don't want to read a long post, don't read it. If you don't want short tweets, then ignore them. If there are other posters who annoy you, just ignore their posts in this forum.

Nobody is forced to engage with anyone else here.

Why isn't that enough??
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Strange, this new incarnation seems to be 100% identical to the old version of the political threads that were shut down.

I was under the assumption that the new threads would be better, with no garbage posting and actual political discussion going on. Instead, we're going to have the same bullshit and we're told, essentially, to deal with it and get thicker skins.

My mistake for thinking their would be improvements.

Like I said, count me 100% out.
 
gourimoko said:
I think what @pr26 is saying is that you should add something to the tweet that isn't purely snark.

I agree with you though; we have normalized what seems benign, and in reality, yes, you did just quote the President of the United States on his public forum of choice. It is always wholly relevant to a political conversation.

But as @King Stannis and @The Human Q-Tip are saying, we're not going to sit around policing post length; it's just too much. Instead, post quality should be the focus.

We're all S34 members, so we understand what that means.

@Cratylus, that should address some of your concerns as well, I think, right?
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Yup.the snark, any of it, has zero utility whatsoever IMO but I may be missing something.
 
There could be some thicker skin developed with regards to the discussion of politics.

There is no snark attached to showing evidence of Trump's flip flop, I was providing an example of how tweets could be used to add context to a current discussion on guns.

Furthermore, to lecture me on snark after producing a contradicting Trump tweet, while this type of posting permeates the board, is puzzling:

Cratylus said:
Shocker of all shockers... the King of the Drive-by Tweet is against the idea of disallowing Drive-by Tweets.
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Shocker of all shockers, but the President uses Twitter to speak to the nation, you can't banish it from political discussion because the news provides contradictions to your preconceived notions.
 
David. said:
Yup.the snark, any of it, has zero utility whatsoever IMO but I may be missing something.
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Look, if someone is consistently acting like a dick, and not making a legitimate contribution, they"ll be asked nicely to stop. If they persist, then they'll be asked less nicely.

But expecting every tweet or post to be scrutinized for "quality" isn't possible.
 
The Human Q-Tip said:
Look, if someone is consistently acting like a dick, and not making a legitimate contribution, they"ll be asked nicely to stop. If they persist, then they'll be asked less nicely.

But expecting every tweet or post to be scrutinized for "quality" isn't possible.
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Agreed 100% ...
 
AZ_ said:
There could be some thicker skin developed with regards to the discussion of politics.

There is no snark attached to showing evidence of Trump's flip flop, I was providing an example of how tweets could be used to add context to a current discussion on guns.

Furthermore, to lecture me on snark after producing a contradicting Trump tweet, while this type of posting permeates the board, is puzzling:

Shocker of all shockers, but the President uses Twitter to speak to the nation, you can't banish it from political discussion because the news provides contradictions to your preconceived notions.
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Let's just.. take a deep breath and chill... Relax... :chuckle:
 
The Human Q-Tip said:
Look, if someone is consistently acting like a dick, and not making a legitimate contribution, they"ll be asked nicely to stop. If they persist, then they'll be asked less nicely.

But expecting every tweet or post to be scrutinized for "quality" isn't possible.
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If someone is clearly trolling, we'll attempt to stop it, if it does not, they will be stopped in other ways...
 
The Human Q-Tip said:
Look, if someone is consistently acting like a dick, and not making a legitimate contribution, they"ll be asked nicely to stop. If they persist, then they'll be asked less nicely.

But expecting every tweet or post to be scrutinized for "quality" isn't possible.
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Eh it's been years. People are either not asking nicely enough or people (more likely ) don't care. Just pointing out that it's entirely counter productive to actual conversation

I'm already not going to be involved for other reasons so I don't have much else to say here
 
gourimoko said:
Let's just.. take a deep breath and chill... Relax... :chuckle:
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Bro, I promise you, I'm cool as a cucumber.

My Stats mid-term is the only thing in my life that's inflicting any sort of meaningful feelings in my life at present.

That said, my argument here is valid, and you and Q basically agreed with my overall point.

I meant absolutely no snark on my end, and thought it was pretty good-natured.

If people can’t deal with actual news and context surrounding current political issues, I understand why they don’t think this new format will work for them.

Their snark on the way out the door is noted.
 
AZ_ said:
Bro, I promise you, I'm cool as a cucumber.

My Stats mid-term is the only thing in my life that's inflicting any sort of meaningful feelings in my life at present.

That said, my argument here is valid, and you and Q basically agreed with my overall point.

I meant absolutely no snark on my end, and thought it was pretty good-natured.
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You had me up to til this...

AZ_ said:
If people can’t deal with actual news and context surrounding current political issues, I understand why they don’t think this new format will work for them.

Their snark on the way out the door is noted.
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Just.. let folks be man.. lol.. breathe, live, be at peace..

it's just not that deep.
 
I hope everyone that doesn't want to participate reconsiders their position.

In any event, they are always welcome to join at any time (following the beta run).
 
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