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Browns 2018 Season Reboot Thread

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Mr. Orange said:
The Post is in the Browns Wins Predictions thread. I chose 4, @natedagg chose 12!. This was on Sep 6th. With Hue as headcoach.

This was the original bet, but to be fair, I replied saying he could have 6 and up. But again, I made that bet with 1-31 Hue as the coach. No fucking way he was winning 7 games.

"@Mr. Orange and I didn’t forget about you, Mr Yellow. I have a new wager to offer, regarding 6 wins. Same as above: you lose if we win more and win if we win less. The loser of the wager has to create an account on a hip hop message board, and defend the Bare Naked Ladies’ “one week” as the best rap song of all time. Like they have to go HARD at defending it lyrically, and be serious about it."

I mean, I will do this if you want, but the bet is kinda BS after the midseason change.
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EDIT: Dagger wins w 6 wins, Yellow is 5 or less.
 
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natedagg said:
The post after you said that it was so funny that you would do 5 wins, if I am not mistaken.
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I was mistaken. One more win. 6 means I win, that is what you committed to.

So if we have a 2/3 chance of a loss on each game, which we don’t, you are looking at about a 30% chance of winning the bet.

If we have a 50% chance at each game, then you are looking at 12.5%.

I’d start your dissertation now. I’ll get going on finding the appropriate forum. Like World Star Hip Hop or Reddit. One of those maybe. I will hit up the OT thread for hip hop.
 
The Human Q-Tip said:
Thing is, most people thought that Hue would be fired if he lost a bunch of games, which would mean that Hue not being the coach would create a bank of losses to help your side of the bet. It's pretty rare that a coach gets fired mid-season and his replacement sees more than a temporary one or two game boost anyway. I suspect that if we would have known that both Hue and Haley would be fired after 8 games, most people would have thought your bet was a likely winner anyway.
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There is not possibly anything ambiguous about this, other than the tie, which can be considered a 1/2 win and 1/2 loss (like the “games behind” standings methodology), or can still be considered a non-win.

There was no implied contractual tie to who was the coach. This whole thing started bc Yellow said we were an awful team and would have 4 wins max. That’s when I tried to bet him like $500 but then the number kept getting bumped up, he kept dancing around the fiat wager, so we wagered something else.

He is lucky we had Hue & Haley for as long as we did or this shit would have been over in week 7. I am lucky Taylor went down and that Kitchens doesn’t suck.

Luck is an element to a wager. All elements were known and considered by both consenting parties. Now we see how these last 3 games pan out.
 
chrisrich91 said:
Yeah I'm not buying the coaching change as an excuse to nullify the bet. There was always a greater than 50% chance Hue was going to be fired and we all knew and recognized this.
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That's fine, that is the reason I wasn't betting money. Anything can happen, but I think everyone would agree that if Hue was coaching the entire year, no way we win 7 games, and the 12 that Nate predicted was absolutely laughable. If the Browns win 7 games I'll go ahead and do the silly bet. 6 is going to stay the push as the coaching change should at the very least let it go back to his original offer.

Dude did think Hue Jackson could win 12 games in a season though... I was actually a much better prognosticator any way you slice it.
 
And btw, the bet is really funny, so I don't even mind. Hopefully Nate will even make an account and support my arguments. If I win the bet I'll do the same for him.

With Baker and a capable coach, I could see the Browns getting to 9-10 wins next year. We shall see what happens.
 
MGMT said:
Receives direct, valid criticism and won’t be initially accountable for a bet.

Attempts to direct the board’s attention to another poster’s poor prediction.

Just Hue Jackson-ing it. I can dig that I guess.
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da fuk?? I just said I would honor it Nate really wants me to. Try harder.

12 wins was a ridiculous prediction, but that is preseason delusion like usual.
 
I sure hope Vegas doesn't try to void my Browns over 5.5 bet. I mean there was a coaching change and all!
 
Duke still up and down... Just 2 carries (negative yards) and no target... Do you still see him as a big part of the team next year? Knowing Dorsey is good in drafting rb and the way Chubb is playing, it might make sense to just trade him this offseason...
 
A coaching change wasn't mentioned as a parameter of the bet. Same as a player being suspended or injured, or bogus calls made on the field by refs. It doesn't mention missed field goals, or games the Browns could've/should've won.

It reads as a bet defined by wins and loses.
 
rastamon87 said:
Duke still up and down... Just 2 carries (negative yards) and no target... Do you still see him as a big part of the team next year? Knowing Dorsey is good in drafting rb and the way Chubb is playing, it might make sense to just trade him this offseason...
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Barring some team giving up a #1 WR or staring CB, I don’t think trading him makes much sense. He’s still only 25. I’d rather give him a full offseason and a full-year in an offense with a real staff before we made that call.

That being said, Hilliard has been getting more snaps as of late and is a similar back to Duke so who knows. At this point Duke’s contract isn’t really an issue because we have so much cap space.
 
rastamon87 said:
Duke still up and down... Just 2 carries (negative yards) and no target... Do you still see him as a big part of the team next year? Knowing Dorsey is good in drafting rb and the way Chubb is playing, it might make sense to just trade him this offseason...
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I see it as Carolina choosing their poison. They didn't want to get hurt by backs out of the backfield, so their LB's player those backs tightly. But that left them more open to the deep ball, and to WR's on running plays.
 
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