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My wife was spanked when she was younger (not abused physically), but was VERBALLY abused from her mom enough that she has anxiety issues to this day. It's sad and upsets me, and her mom realizes how terrible that was and is extremely remorseful about it.

I previously worked at CPL for 12 years and the amount of neglect and abuse I've seen from MANY parents is enough to make me want to puke. Parents are HORRID, man.

Not enough people put enough thought, energy and effort, and LOVE into raising their children.

Sorry for being a bit off topic...
 
thedarkness2332 said:
If under any controversial topic, one side says “it shouldn’t be controversial because my side is right,” that only furthers the controversy.
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:chuckle:

Doesn’t change my opinion. I don’t think it should be controversial because of the opinion I’ve laid out.

That doesn’t mean it isn’t.

All kinds of things are controversial that probably shouldn’t be.
 
Spanking really does work sometimes. Spanking my old man pretty much immediately fixes my e.d.
 
Vee-Rex said:
My wife was spanked when she was younger (not abused physically), but was VERBALLY abused from her mom enough that she has anxiety issues to this day. It's sad and upsets me, and her mom realizes how terrible that was and is extremely remorseful about it.

I previously worked at CPL for 12 years and the amount of neglect and abuse I've seen from MANY parents is enough to make me want to puke. Parents are HORRID, man.

Not enough people put enough thought, energy and effort, and LOVE into raising their children.

Sorry for being a bit off topic...
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Right on topic.

We’ve moved into shitty parenting and that certainly counts. It is sickening.
 
Talk about beating a dead horse, this subject of spanking your child has been beat into the ground.

Too Soon?
 
David. said:
And frankly if someone believes force (within reason) is justified, why would they need to show remorse? That's their belief and they could actually be right. You absolutely can tell who walked all over their parents and they are typically pieces of shit.
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Some of you have never had your arm broken as a toddler and lived in perpetual fear of your father and it really shows! Fucking millennials not getting bruises and cuts on their scrotum making the world so soft
 
I'm raising kids differently than the way I was raised. No physical discipline here. However, when I was raised, I didn't think the physical discipline was abusive. Looking back on it, I have a far different opinion.

With retrospect, I think that parents who resort to physical discipline aren't good at de-escalating situations. It's like the person who tries to shout louder than the other person. Sometimes you need to take a step back, not try to "win" this moment of rising emotions, and figure out what's best in the long term. Being dead on the inside helps.

It also matters how you start early. I think that if your kids start off down a path used to conflicts escalating into physical altercations, that sort of messed up heightened emotional state will be what they seek.

So... Kareem Hunt anyone?
 
The Wizard of Moz said:
Some of you have never had your arm broken as a toddler and lived in perpetual fear of your father and it really shows! Fucking millennials not getting bruises and cuts on their scrotum making the world so soft
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I Mena ya that would be a response to someonr making an arhument that every type of physical violence is appropriate in every instance and I refuse to accept any instance it isn't used, but I didn't make that arhument.
 
The Oi said:
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I suck at like 87% of things in life. Minimum. Might be higher.

But the one thing I’m really fucking good at, like REALLY fucking good is being a dad.

Some of it was from learning good and bad things from my dad, some reading and some of it comes from instinct.

The instinct part of it comes from being able to read my son and the situations he’s in like a book. And this also helps to be able to read OTHER kids and their parents like a book.

To me, bratty entitled 9 year olds come from bratty entitled parents. And that has nothing to do with a belt. It comes from an unwillingness to dedicate time and effort to teaching your kid how to interact with you, the parent. And to interact with other people. To go through the world as a solid citizen. Because for some people it’s easier to be a shit-head than not to be. These kids are coming from shit-head parents who probably also came from shit-head parents.



I’ve seen my SIL swat her kid on the ass in a way I wouldn’t call abuse. Her kids get the point.

I just don’t do it. I have my kid’s attention and I can read him in such a way that a facial expression is USUALLY all it takes to get him to stop a negative behavior. That’s not always the case. If he doesn’t stop or if he’s tantruming, I yank him out of the situation. And then communicate with him. But I can’t live with a scenario where I watch my kid hitting my grandson one day because I used to hit him. Ain’t me.

When I find out my kid did something I don’t like I sit him down and talk to him about it. We discuss what was wrong, how it hurt someone, whatever. And he explains back to me why before he gets up and leaves.

To me, this achieves far more than a belt.



What’s the best way? Why is it the best way? Could you use that way all the time instead? Does a belt or switch make them a better person? Can a belt or switch seriously hurt a kid? Do them damage you wouldn’t want the school or your friends to find out about? If not, why not?



Agree. People who walk on their parents are generally assholes. Parents shouldn’t let their kids do this.




Hitting shouldn’t be controversial. I think it’s controversial because people got raised getting hit and they want to be able to do it to their kids because it’s what they know. You stick to what you know. Truthfully, my parents were assholes (after dad died). They just yelled at me and told me I was useless. So I just got verbally abused. This isn't useful either. But its easy and I could see how it would be cathartic if you dislike your kid and arent happy with your life, which they kid and they weren’t.

Talking to your kids and establishing two-way respect is hard and it takes time. Hitting a kid is easy.

Sign me up for the former.
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Blah blah blah. I am jigo and awesome at fatherhood so do what I do and reason w your child. Blah blah blah.

What’s the best way? There isn’t one.

Why is it the best way?
Could you use that way all the time instead?

Does a belt or switch make them a better person? I am unsure.

Can a belt or switch seriously hurt a kid? Is it in the realm of possibility? Sure. Is that what I think of when I think of this form of discipline? No.

Do them damage you wouldn’t want the school or your friends to find out about? Not sure. Never did it. I would imagine my friends and I would laugh about it if I got whipped and was telling them what I did wrong.

If not, why not? Because other parents want to impose their views of parenting on other parents.

I don’t condone it or condemn it. I just don’t consider all forms of physical punishment to be abuse.

I’d argue that verbal abuse is incredibly more common, more damaging, and somehow more allowed. But I am not here to plant a flag really. It’s hard enough raising these monkeys as is.

Breaking an arm though? That’s boiling-blood anger. There’s a real problem there.

Using a switch? Not my thing. Never will be. But I am not trying to judge AP for his ways. I definitely don’t lump him into what I deem a child abuser.

Don’t @ me. This is boring.
 
The Oi said:
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Doesn’t change my opinion. I don’t think it should be controversial because of the opinion I’ve laid out.

That doesn’t mean it isn’t.
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Sure, I get that. And I also think it’s reasonable to say that in an ideal circumstance, you never have to spank your child. You hope it doesn’t come to that. One would hope a parent doesn’t go home from work thinking “Man, I’d really like to spank my child.” If done, you’d hope it’s done out of necessity.

That said, sometimes a 2 year old or a 3 year old can be difficult to reason with in a deep way, whereas a quick spank provides immediate dissuasive feedback. Especially if attempts were made to verbally stop an action. Following the spank, it’s discussed why we don’t do that. As kids grow older, the need to spank would theoretically lesson as real conversations are much easier to conduct. That and good behavior was already fostered at a young age. The effort is certainly made to teach a kid right from wrong verbally, and I have no problem with it being done in conjunction with spanking if a situation requires.

I was spanked with a hand only. My parents did not believe in using any object as it’s easy to underestimate force when you don’t get the feedback of the action. Open hand, less harmful, but enough to dissuade. Never in the face. They spanked my ass.

However, I was a very good kid and I was rarely spanked as I grew older. This is likely due to being spanked as a toddler.

Nowadays, we talk so much about the terrible two’s and ornery three year-olds. That’s likely partially due to reduced physical discipline in today’s society and a two year old is difficult to provide meaningful punishment by talking it out. Thus, it becomes a time where we have a habit of just “living” with the behavior. Trying to weather it by saying “no” and lacking an effective next step. Taking something away or time-outs only go so far. Sometimes they think it’s funny.

Throws food? “No no, we don’t throw food.” Does it again? “I said no.” Does it again? Spank.

I guess I just don’t have a problem with that three-step course of action.

If people can effectively rear their children without laying a hand on them, I would never argue that. That’s ideal. At the same time, I see the utility and I, personally, never once felt abused nor do I think so looking back.

There’s a line, to me, where it crosses a line and simple spanking with an open hand doesn’t cross it for me.

Anyway, I’m not going to take the conversation further.
 
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I was spanked as a child on only the worst behavior occasions. Me and my siblings were a true handful (me and my brother actually half waterboarded my sister without knowing what we were doing - never had seen my dad that mad in my life).

The difference is I was never terrified of my parents and didn't have noticeable bruises - that's abuse, both physically and mentally.

Tyreek is a true piece of shit individual.
 
Kbiz said:
I was spanked as a child on only the worst behavior occasions. Me and my siblings were a true handful (me and my brother actually half waterboarded my sister without knowing what we were doing - never had seen my dad that mad in my life).

The difference is I was never terrified of my parents and didn't have noticeable bruises - that's abuse, both physically and mentally.

Tyreek is a true piece of shit individual.
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Tyreek learned it somewhere.
 
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