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LOL gotta love Peter.

“There are no better writers in television than Dan Weiss and David Benioff,” Dinklage says in the cringey video. “They ended it brilliantly. Better than I could have imagined and you people are in for it.” Then he rolls his eyes.

More burns from Peter.

“You’re being held hostage and wont be released until you record yourself supporting us as writers”
 
The thing some of the very BEST dialouge scenes in the early season were show only scenes.

So, Roberts 1on1 with Cersei. Amazing. Show only.

Robert and Jaime talking about war stories with Barristan. Show only.

Cat finally admitting the way she treated Jon was awful to Talisa. Show only.

And....that's gone now.

I think it was much easier for them to come up with a smaller number of specific scenes that enhanced the stuff GRRM already had laid out for them, versus having to pretty much construct it all from scratch. I almost get the sense that they're pissed at GRRM for making them come up with it all themselves.
 
D&D just don't care. They didn't want to go this long.

This is why everything is rushed, and makes no sense at all. They just want to end it and go make Star Wars.

The only ending I'd enjoy at this point. Is George RR Martin sitting on the Iron Throne, giving a big middle finger to Dumb and Dumber.

How are you not mad at GRRM about this? (Maybe you are and just didn’t post it) As far as he’s concerned he should be getting the finger too for not writing.
 
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I think it was much easier for them to come up with a smaller number of specific scenes that enhanced the stuff GRRM already had laid out for them, versus having to pretty much construct it all from scratch. I almost get the sense that they're pissed at GRRM for making them come up with it all themselves.

Right there’s a huge difference between GRRM writing a lot on a book and him just writing cliff notes plot points.

It’s like a kid presenting a book they never read, but read the cliff notes vs a kid that read the book. The one that has the full material will be better 99% of the time.
 
The thing some of the very BEST dialouge scenes in the early season were show only scenes.

So, Roberts 1on1 with Cersei. Amazing. Show only.

Robert and Jaime talking about war stories with Barristan. Show only.

Cat finally admitting the way she treated Jon was awful to Talisa. Show only.

And....that's gone now.

It's painful how much quality has been just lost with the way the last few seasons have went.
I knew it was over when the Blackfish's own troops who he led to victory just let their castle go because their captured "lord" told them to do so. I mean that was such a WTF that leaving the books behind was going to be bad thing
 
It's painful how much quality has been just lost with the way the last few seasons have went.
I knew it was over when the Blackfish's own troops who he led to victory just let their castle go because their captured "lord" told them to do so. I mean that was such a WTF that leaving the books behind was going to be bad thing

I think that happened in the books.

Except Jaime threatened to send Edmure's baby over the wall into Riverrun via catapult.

Blackfish escaped though.
 
How are you not mad at GRRM about this? (Maybe you are and just didn’t post it) As far as he’s concerned he should be getting the finger too for not writing.

I don't blame D&D for not filling the gaps between after RR didn't finish the books.

I'm saying all along they had a timeline they wanted to do this. Which explains the slopfest of a conclusion.

They had ZERO interest doing anymore GoT. They didn't want to go this long.

It's why season 7 was shorten and why 8 is as well. And they're speed rushing all the storylines.

RR wanted them to at least go 10. They didn't want to.

D&D lost interest. They punched their ticket out to go do Star Wars movies.

Yeah, I mean I wish RR finished the books but I don't think it'd change that much.

D&D are done with GoT. It's why many of the actors are taking quite a bit of swipes at them.

They are hacks.
 
Does anyone know what the “bonus episode” is?
 
I think that happened in the books.

Except Jaime threatened to send Edmure's baby over the wall into Riverrun via catapult.

Blackfish escaped though.

Yeah, pretty sure he's gonna link up with zombie Cat and play a part in massacring the Freys. Since there is no zombie Cat on the show, his role pretty much ended at Riverrun.
 
I don't blame D&D for not filling the gaps between after RR didn't finish the books.

I'm saying all along they had a timeline they wanted to do this. Which explains the slopfest of a conclusion.

They had ZERO interest doing anymore GoT. They didn't want to go this long.

It's why season 7 was shorten and why 8 is as well. And they're speed rushing all the storylines.

RR wanted them to at least go 10. They didn't want to.

Yeah, I mean I wish RR finished the books but I don't think it'd change that much.

D&D are done with GoT. It's why many of the actors are taking quite a bit of swipes at them.

They are hacks.

I'm not happy with what D&D did, but GRRM deserves at least 75% of the blame for this. D&D are likely angry at him and feel that he hung them out to dry. The truth is that he did, and I'd be pissed as well if I were them.

When this whole series was being discussed and greenlighted, D&D -- and later the actors -- signed on for seven seasons, one for each book in the projected series. They did that based on the belief that would be plenty of time to tell this story the right way, and that belief was based on in-depth conversations D&D had with GRRM. The only guy who could possibly have known that it would take more than seven seasons -- GRRM -- was fine with that plan. So everyone went into it with the expectation -- memorialized by contract -- that they were signing up for no more than seven seasons. Those initial discussions all happened in 2006-07, and HBO formally bought it in 2008.

D&D also were told, by GRRM, that they'd be adapting his novels for each season, so they'd have all that source material and wouldn't be writing from scratch. He'd also write at least one episode per season. The projection that they'd be responsible for writing an adaptation directly impacted their projected workload, and the creative demands on them to complete this massive and complex story in a satisfactory manner. The most recent novel then published was 2005's A Feast For Crows, and they were assured by GRRM that he'd finish the series in time.

GRRM is an incredible writer, and the story he created is amazingly complex. The only person truly capable of finishing that story and keeping it the same high quality was him. D&D were not able to do that, and they knew it, which is why they were adapting his story rather than writing their own original one in the first place. The funny thing is that GRRM said he'd never pull a Robert Jordan, and have someone else finish his story if he couldn't. Well...guess what?

We all know what happened -- or rather, what didn't happen. Since the publication of A Feast For Crows in 2005, and through the entirety of the development, shooting, and broadcasting of the series, GRRM completed exactly one of the three books remaining to be written. One book in 14 years. And GRRM hasn't even finished one book -- not one -- since the series premiered in 2011 (he turned in the manuscript for ADWD before the first episode of the show premiered). So, the roadmap D&D were promised by GRRM to finish the show in seven seasons ended long before the finish, and the story GRRM had agreed could be told well in 7 season ballooned well beyond that. D&D were now expected to take over the creative process entirely, writing a series whose complexity and literary quality were beyond their (or anyone else other than GRRM's) capabilities.

So now, GRRM is out there saying that he's "sad" at the way the series is enging, and it really should have gone 11, 12, or 13 seasons to be told the right way. Seriously?? I can pretty much hear D&D saying "if that fat fuck had told us at the outset that we needed that much time to tell the story the "right way", we wouldn't have signed on, we couldn't have gotten that big a commitment from the actors either, and HBO would never have agreed." And they'd be right. I recall there being issues years ago with the actors' contracts when they were trying to go beyond seven seasons because the actors weren't signed to it. The idea that it should go to 10 seasons or something...D&D didn't sign up for that, and neither did the actors.

So yeah, D&D have been little bitches and done a crappy job since the books ran out. But in their defense, they were never supposed to be in this position in the first place, and the only reason they're in this position is because GRRM failed to come through on his commitments to them, and because he screwed up in his representation that the series could be done properly in just 7 seasons.
 
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I'll just say I have read several articles that say a writers room of 2 for show this complex and with such a large cast of characters is completely unheard of. No one would ever attempt this.

Them not hiring more writers for the seasons they had no source material for, while spending this enormous amount of money is unforgivable. I don't blame them for the bad job they did as it must have been incredibly difficult, I blame them for not going out and hiring the best writers in the biz to help them.
 
I'll just say I have read several articles that say a writers room of 2 for show this complex and with such a large cast of characters is completely unheard of. No one would ever attempt this.

Them not hiring more writers for the seasons they had no source material for, while spending this enormous amount of money is unforgivable. I don't blame them for the bad job they did as it must have been incredibly difficult, I blame them for not going out and hiring the best writers in the biz to help them.

100%. Ego.
 
I'll just say I have read several articles that say a writers room of 2 for show this complex and with such a large cast of characters is completely unheard of. No one would ever attempt this.

Them not hiring more writers for the seasons they had no source material for, while spending this enormous amount of money is unforgivable. I don't blame them for the bad job they did as it must have been incredibly difficult, I blame them for not going out and hiring the best writers in the biz to help them.

The best writer in the biz hasn’t been able to finish a book
 
I'll just say I have read several articles that say a writers room of 2 for show this complex and with such a large cast of characters is completely unheard of. No one would ever attempt this.

Them not hiring more writers for the seasons they had no source material for, while spending this enormous amount of money is unforgivable. I don't blame them for the bad job they did as it must have been incredibly difficult, I blame them for not going out and hiring the best writers in the biz to help them.

That and they took liberties with characters.

For example: Renly is an asshole in the books.

But they made him all likable to further Brienne's characterization.

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