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Is Kevin Love a Hero for Saving a Dog?

  • Yes

    Votes: 28 48.3%

  • Too Right!

    Votes: 2 3.4%

  • Hotter than Jimmy G

    Votes: 15 25.9%

  • Jim Chones

    Votes: 13 22.4%
  • Total voters
    58
Los216 said:
This line of thinking is exactly why BOS is where they are at right now. Jimmy Butler, Paul George, Kawhi Leonard, DeMarcus Cousins, Anthony Davis, Kevin Love. BOS signed Gordon Hayward to a max deal when they already had Brown and Tatum. Now they can't trade Jaylen Brown because he's a building block? Sure. Slide his ass over here for Kevin Love and finally cash in on your assets Danny Ainge. The best part is Love is locked up for at least 3 more years so they know if they give up any valuable assets like Brown and the MEM pick they won't get burned like they did with Kyrie.
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Kevin Love isn’t close to Kawhi, PG, or AD and is not putting Boston over the top while giving up Jaylen Brown. This trade makes no sense for Boston and it’s unrealistic to me. Weren’t you trying to trade Love for Indiana pick which was in the teens? Now you think Boston is going to give you Brown and Memphis pick unprotected which could very well be a top 5 pick for Kevin Love? I mean I’d love it, but I don’t think it’s realistic at all.


ETA: I see now. You’re betting Hayward comes back to life and they trade Brown to us. Sign me up. I’ll hush.
 
red. said:
Kevin Love isn’t close to Kawhi, PG, or AD and is not putting Boston over the top while giving up Jaylen Brown. This trade makes no sense for Boston and it’s unrealistic to me. Weren’t you trying to trade Love for Indiana pick which was in the teens? Now you think Boston is going to give you Brown and Memphis pick unprotected which could very well be a top 5 pick for Kevin Love? I mean I’d love it, but I don’t think it’s realistic at all.


ETA: I see now. You’re betting Hayward comes back to life and they trade Brown to us. Sign me up. I’ll hush.
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BOS was about to give Al Horford $100M to come back. There are teams out there who are going to give Al Horford $100M. So yeah Kevin Love should be enough to get Jaylen Brown. Kevin Love is also locked up for the next 3 years. None of Hawyard, Tatum, or Brown should be playing the 4. They're skill sets overlap. I understand positionless basketball but they have 3 guys who are conflicting with each other. Their biggest issue last season was chemistry. Jaylen Brown is the most gettable out of their 3 wings. Kevin Love should get it done.

Also remember that BOS was going after Mike Conley before Utah traded for him so they are very ,much in play to trade for a marquee player. Kevin Love makes a lot of sense for them and Jaylen Brown makes a lot of sense for us.
 
red. said:
Boston is not trading Jaylen Brown for Kevin Love. Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum are their two building blocks for when Kyrie and Al Horford leaves. I think realistically, the Cavs could get Romeo Langford or the Memphis pick, but not both. Nobody giving up all that for Kevin Love.
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I tend to agree. Danny Ainge is becoming notorious for overvaluing his assets and over-playing his hand. That said, I don’t think Boston would trade Brown for Love. I think Danny Ainge would prefer to acquire a younger veteran than Love in any trade. If reports are accurate, Boston is going to try to sign Nik Vucevic in free agency.

I can’t help but wonder if Dan Gilbert’s comments about the Cavaliers ‘killing it’ in the Kyrie trade would negatively affect any trade talks with the Celtics? That seemed to be a shot at Ainge & the Celtics.
 
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My personal opinion, given his injury history and subtle decline this past year that there’s no way anyone would give 4/120 to Kevin Love even in this cap space rich market.

He only fits certain teams. A bad team isn’t signing him because he’s definitely not a No. 1 option and arguably not even a great No. 2 option. That eliminates half the league right off the bat IMO.

His market is limited to teams with playoff aspirations who also already have a No. 1 and No. 2 option, have the assets and tax flexibility to take on a guy making 30M per year to be a third option AND still have a need for a PF/C.

Not many teams fit that criteria IMO. Maybe less than five total.

And before anyone references Horford. Couple things...

1. Horford has pretty clearly been a better basketball player than Love over the last five years. More win shares, higher BPM, more than double the VORP.

2. If Horford gets a 4 year contract like Love’s, it is absolutely going to be a regrettable anchor in 2 years.
 
Randolphkeys said:
Before the tank season, Kevin Love played an average of 83.5 games per season as a Cavalier, including the playoffs. So no, I reject your fraudulent premise. When a team is tanking and tells their star player to take a surgery that he wouldn't bother taking if the franchise were contending, you cannot and should not hold it against his body of work beforehand.
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It’s not just last season. Love has battled injuries his entire career. Over his 11 year career, he has played in an average of 59 regular season games out of 82 or 72%. When healthy, he is a good player who has produced career averages of 18.3 PPG and 11.3 RPG.

Some Cavalier fans seem to be thinking with their hearts rather than their heads, when it comes to Kevin Love. Hanging onto an aging, depreciating asset, in the midst of a rebuild and for some kind of sentimental reasons, makes absolutely no sense.
 
I'm a huge Kevin Love fan, I even think playing with LeBron ruined his stats and game but he's a great team mate and didn't complain. With all that said I think it's time to move him. His greatest strength now is stretching the court and with our draft we have enough of deep range guys.

I know it's not a popular view but guys like TT and Zizic along with Henson are the big guys we need. I trust Koby and he will find a good place for Love and pieces coming back our way.
 
Just looking at the landscape, Love's value can increase by KD leaving GSW IMO.

Love makes a lot of sense for many contenders, in a world where the Warriors have (3) but not (4) interchangeable pieces.

If you struck out on a draft day trade, the Cavs best chance to move him (IMO), will be if KD exits.

At that point in time, teams on the cusp are going to be hyper motivated to get better and Love is one of the few avenues to legitimate, secondary scoring punch and spacing for a title contender.

I don't think additional rookies make sense, unless we are getting back what we perceive to be lottery value. We have 3 developmental rookies and to make room for a 4th, you just have to really, really like that player. I'm more interested in young players who have already shown NBA promise or picks 3-4 years out, that you can potentially get lighter protections on or just pick swaps.

If KD sticks in GSW, I think the plan becomes to see what our options are at the deadline and get 4-5 months of vet influence.
 
I keep going back to New Orleans as a potential landing spot for KLove.

There were rumors that we discussed it on draft day, but Griff turned his focus to the Atlanta deal for the #4 pick.

I've heard Beilein say a few times already that his system has 2 guards, 2 forwards and a "big" center, which could be Jaxson Hayes who we were rumored to be interested in if we traded down.

They could also provide the cap relief allowing us to deal JR for another asset.
 
I would be interested in a package surrounded around Nassir Little and Gary Trent Jr for Love.
 
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