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Moses Brown: What's Up With Him?

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Dr No said:
As big and athletic as he is I'm trying to figure out why he didn't stick with Portland, OKC, or Dallas - Especially OKC since they are in a rebuild and didn't have a legitimate center on the roster. He looks at least serviceable and with some upside, but something is causing teams to give up on him quickly.
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If the coaching staff thinks he is not coachable then they are not going to keep him no matter what. He still needs to learn stuff and no one can force him to learn. Maybe he has changed?
 
Or maybe those teams are lacking in the talent evaluation aspect of an organization?

In Dallas it was simply a number crunch as far as roster slots.
 
Beanie4Heisman said:
Or maybe those teams are lacking in the talent evaluation aspect of an organization?

In Dallas it was simply a number crunch as far as roster slots.
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Or maybe those teams have no ability to include 7 foot lanky dudes in the game plan. One thing about Moses, he is one long tall drink of water. I am wondering how his standing reach compares to Mobley and Allen.

I think JBB is a big mans coach. He seems to do better when optimizing those kinds of assets. Which is why I think Rubio had such an impact in that we could help the guards figure out what to do.
 
Derek said:
Having better hands than Tacko is no more impressive than being able to outrun Lt. Dan
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I mean finding flawsin guys taken off the scrap heap is a pretty easy gig. He's not as bad as I thought he would be according to Thunder and Blazers fans.

Here's a list of stiffs I would take Brown over

Ryan Hollins
Semi Erden
Tacko
Edy Tavares
Henson
Zizic
Sasha Kaun
Bolden
Kabengele
Chriss


You are literally telling me one day we don't need someone as good as Hartenstein, and then the next criticizing me for saying Moses brown ain't so bad. Is there an opposing side you wouldn't leap to were I to stake a claim?

This list is who I am comparing him to
 
I dunno. He can at least use his size on offense better than you'd expect a 10 day contract guy to do.


Yea, he's really slow and uncoordinated but probably should be able to be a 3rd C on some teams out there.

But I guess there's not much difference between that a 10 day contract guy.

FWIW, I thought we've needed a dude all year just to bang around with big boys a game here and there for 10 minutes a night. Vet minimum guy.

To me, I don't think he'd be a bad guy for your 12-13th man on this roster specifically when our two starting FC players are lanky, skinny guys and we don't bring a C off the bench.
 
Cavatt said:
I mean finding flawsin guys taken off the scrap heap is a pretty easy gig. He's not as bad as I thought he would be according to Thunder and Blazers fans.

Here's a list of stiffs I would take Brown over

Ryan Hollins
Semi Erden
Tacko
Edy Tavares
Henson
Zizic
Sasha Kaun
Bolden
Kabengele
Chriss


You are literally telling me one day we don't need someone as good as Hartenstein, and then the next criticizing me for saying Moses brown ain't so bad. Is there an opposing side you wouldn't leap to were I to stake a claim?

This list is who I am comparing him to
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Lighten up, Francis. I made a joke.

I’m not here to debate who our 15th man should be.
 
He’s not a banger though. He seems to just reach over and around people rather than muscling them out of spots or anything. (This was responding to @Rich above)
 
Please, ease up guys. You've both made your points. You probably agree on more of it than you disagree.
 
How bad can a guy really be when he scores 22 PER and .219 WS/48?

Seriously....

Derek, you said the same thing with Hartenstein and you should check his stats out right now. He isn't nearly as good as Hartenstein, but he is surely serviceable.
 
6 fouls and a backup center for the playoffs.

Gets some rebounds others would not. Not going to win us games but not washed like Ed Davis. Who is not a center. Centers can competitively guard other 7 footers...
 
Sir'Dom Pointer said:
How bad can a guy really be when he scores 22 PER and .219 WS/48?

Seriously....

Derek, you said the same thing with Hartenstein and you should check his stats out right now. He isn't nearly as good as Hartenstein, but he is surely serviceable.
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I never said anything disparaging about Hartenstein. You must have me mistaken with someone else.
 
I'm positive you were really down on Hartenstein last year but that's whatever. Everyone is wrong about players all the time.

He's not nearly as good as Hartenstein. I'd give Hartenstein every day rotation minutes on this team and there would be times he'd get more PT than Love or Lauri depending on the matchup. Brown not so much.



But I think a series against Philly is actually where'd he'd be useful.

You can't expect Allen to guard Embiid 1on1, little to no help, for 35 minutes a night. He'll be worn out and get into foul trouble.

Brown comes in, gives you 6 fouls, battles Embiid, and can still catch some lobs and get you offensive rebounds at a far better rate than Ed Davis. He won't just be a zero on offense for those 6 fouls.
 
Derek said:
I never said anything disparaging about Hartenstein. You must have me mistaken with someone else.
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I'm not.. but it doesn't matter. You can check it out for yourself.

Anyways, he is a good player. Could have had him for a bargain price, but we chose Kabengele. And yes, we would have had a spot for him clearly.
 
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