2014 NFL Free Agency Thread

[polska2211]

Well no, I wouldn't label anyone with a moniker which I think is bullshit and completely sensationalized.

I don't believe in fairy tales anymore, I believe that Romo and Eli Manning are elite athletes. Their mannerisms and leadership traits are most often judged by people who don't even see their mannerisms and leadership traits.

It's often misjudged, it's often sensationalized and it's because of those things which makes it such a poor metric for projecting talent.

So would you not have said that Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Russell were elite athletes? Russell could throw the ball 60 yards from his knees. Jeff George had a cannon. Where do you make the distinction of 'elite athlete' then? Because there are plenty of guys who have all the tools but don't have it upstairs, one way or another.

 

[AZ_]

So would you not have said that Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Russell were elite athletes? Russell could throw the ball 60 yards from his knees. Jeff George had a cannon. Where do you make the distinction of 'elite athlete' then? Because there are plenty of guys who have all the tools but don't have it upstairs, one way or another.

And the bolded what prevented them from being great, not a lack of leadership skills or mannerisms.

The inability to understand complex offensive and defensive schemes at the NFL level doesn't fall under the category of leadership or being a "winner."

Just because I labeled them as great athletes doesn't mean I'm overlooking their mental ability which has given them so much success, if that's what you're implying.

I think that aspect is clearly separate from the "winner" or "gamer" moniker, however.

 

[Frank Stallone]

Joins "He's a football player!" and the "IT FACTOR!" in the same boat.

I am a big hater of "upside" - I think everyone has upside. Who is to say someone doesn't have more potential?

The worst word is playmaker. Everyone makes fucking plays. "This guy is a playmaker!" No. Fucking. Shit.

 

[NtG]

I've always liked Vince Young

 

[SixPACK]

I am a big hater of "upside" - I think everyone has upside. Who is to say someone doesn't have more potential?

Same. I'm 6'4, muscular and pretty quick. Shit, I HAVE UPSIDE!!!!!!!!!!!










Nevermind, I'm white

 

[Jack Brickman]

Nevermind, I'm white

There's always hockey!

 

[Surge]

Nevermind, I'm white

There's always hockey!