2015 College Football Season/Playoff Thread

[spydy13]

This is turning out to be an ugly weekend for the playoff committee. Three of their top 5 have been blown out and two have been humiliated.

I don't see how we can remain at four much longer. You leave out a major conference champion. You open the door for a single late loss to eliminate a legit contender. You leave no room for two of the top teams to hail from the same conference.

Eight just makes too much sense. College football will have to drag their feet for 10 more years before they get it right.

Don't those blowouts just show that they got the rankings wrong?

I mean the fact that Iowa got to four while Houston could never break the top ten shows how biased they are towards the power conferences.

I guess you could argue that with 8 there is more room for error in the rankings, but I think the bigger problem was the committee struggling to identify the best teams because no one other than Clemson had a stellar season throughout.

 

[I'mWithDan]

The official job of the committee is to put the 4 best teams in. But, for the second year in a row, it's not what they did. They put the 4 most deserving teams in. Which is fine, that's what it should be. Is Ohio State a top 4 team? Undoubtedly. But, that's not what it takes to get into the playoff.

So a team that beat OSU on the road with a backup and won the conference championship wasn't the best team? Are you guys listening to yourselves?

If we're taking the approach that the on field results don't matter as much as "the best 4 teams", why don't they just stop playing?

OSU lost at home to a backup QB. They weren't one of the best 4 teams simply by that result.

What you're proposing is a totally subjective selection process where on field results matter less than matching up the most talented teams. To me, that makes no sense.

Regardless of the result, Michigan State earned their way in. Sometimes you just get your ass kicked. Every team and program has had it happen. It doesn't make them any less deserving.

Bowl games are just a different animal. Teams gets 4-5 weeks of prep and if you have any weaknesses at all, they will get exploited. That's what happened to MSU and many other teams this weekend.

 

[AZ_]

Committee is always going to suck until they're allowed to pick games in hindsight.

 

[Ohio]

I think some of you are misunderstanding me...the four teams all deserved to be there. They earned it. No question.

That doesn't mean the four best teams were in the playoff. But there's really nothing anyone can do to change that. Given that a conference championship reigns supreme over all, regardless of strength of conference. Expanding the field would probably help the cause.

 

[CPK]

I wouldn't mind the playoff being expanded to eight teams though I think it's unlikely.

 

[Mr. Orange]

The committee is not your boogeyman.

Im actually embarrassed that people actually try to argue that OSU should be in it.

They had their chance.

Do they want the four most deserving teams or the four best teams?

That is the question I am asking. If it is the four most deserving, then they got it right. If it is the four best, then I'm not sure they did.

I am aware that OSU should have beaten MSU if they wanted their chance. But I guarantee you OSU wouldn't have lost by 38 to Bama. That's all.

 

[Ohio]

OSU lost at home to a backup QB. They weren't one of the best 4 teams simply by that result.

I guess Alabama isn't a top 4 team because they lost at home to the only kind of good team on their schedule this season.
I guess Oklahoma isn't a top 4 team because they lost to a garbage Texas team.
I guess MSU isn't a top 4 team because they lost to a garbage Nebraska team.

Do you realize how stupid those statements are?

 

[I'mWithDan]

I guess Alabama isn't a top 4 team because they lost at home to the only kind of good team on their schedule this season.
I guess Oklahoma isn't a top 4 team because they lost to a garbage Texas team.
I guess MSU isn't a top 4 team because they lost to a garbage Nebraska team.

Do you realize how stupid those statements are?

So Alabama lost at home to the team that won the conference?

Oklahoma lost to the team that won the conference?

 

[Rich]

Do they want the four most deserving teams or the four best teams?

That is the question I am asking. If it is the four most deserving, then they got it right. If it is the four best, then I'm not sure they did.

I am aware that OSU should have beaten MSU if they wanted their chance. But I guarantee you OSU wouldn't have lost by 38 to Bama. That's all.

And how exactly are you determining four "best?" BEcause it can't be based on what happened on the football field all season. So then what is it?

 

[I'mWithDan]

Do they want the four most deserving teams or the four best teams?

That is the question I am asking. If it is the four most deserving, then they got it right. If it is the four best, then I'm not sure they did.

I am aware that OSU should have beaten MSU if they wanted their chance. But I guarantee you OSU wouldn't have lost by 38 to Bama. That's all.

So now the amount of points you would have lost by means something?

Bowl games are apples to oranges IMO. They're almost not the same season. Just look at some of the results today.

Do I think OSU was one of the best 4-6 teams? Probably but if you lose at home to the team that goes on to win the conference, you're out. That's just how it works. Arguing "best teams" is just a subjective thing where someone who didn't get in can try to state their case.

Start to finish, OSU was not one of the best teams. They had a fire lit under their ass after the MSU game but were largely complacent a majority of the year. I thought all the teams that got in were just better over the entire season. Could OSU beat anyone in a one game scenario? Sure but at some point the entire body of work matters more than how a team might fair in a single game, based on the amount of talent they have.

 

[Ohio]

So Alabama lost at home to the team that won the conference?

Oklahoma lost to the team that won the conference?

Aha. Yes, as previously mentioned, conference titles reign supreme regardless of strength of conference.

If only Michigan State lost 7 games...or lost an additional game on an absurd lateral play...we totally would have earned it!!

 

[Cavsfan1985]

Let's not pretend that three of the teams did have 1 loss. It's not fair, but we happen to lose to the team in our side of the confrence. Had MSU been on the otherside we would have had a rematch. Just unlucky.

 

[Mr. Orange]

And how exactly are you determining four "best?" BEcause it can't be based on what happened on the football field all season. So then what is it?

Alabama and Ohio State should always be in the playoff. The other two spots are up for grabs.

But seriously, there is not a great way to do it. Some years, like this one, they will have their hands tied. That's just the way it is.

 

[AZ_]

Do they want the four most deserving teams or the four best teams?

That is the question I am asking. If it is the four most deserving, then they got it right. If it is the four best, then I'm not sure they did.

I am aware that OSU should have beaten MSU if they wanted their chance. But I guarantee you OSU wouldn't have lost by 38 to Bama. That's all.

So your argument is that Ohio State should be in over Michigan State, despite losing to them at home while they played their backup QB. I mean what possible reasoning would the committee have to justify calling OSU better?


OSU fans are truly a different breed.

 

[Mr. Orange]

So your argument is that Ohio State should be in over Michigan State, despite losing to them at home while they played their backup QB. I mean what possible reasoning would the committee have to justify calling OSU better?


OSU fans are truly a different breed.

No, that isn't my argument. My argument is that Ohio State has a better team than Michigan State. The coaches just jobbed up that game. I realize the committee had to reward MSU for that win, but if you think OSU would have lost by 38 to Alabama...well you truly are a different breed.