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Phil Mixtape
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Now all that needs to happen is for him to be exiled to Atlanta, NY, Phoenix or somewhere. One of the absolute worst of the worst. I'd absolutely love to see this clown running his mouth while just going out and getting killed every night. Get him off GS and see what he's really about . . .
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Good. There is no one else in this league I would love to see fall off sooner than him.
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We saw the same thing happen to TT, Shump, and JR. Playing out of position for multiple seasons with long playoff runs will wear down players. He probably needs an injury to hold him out for a large period of time so his body can recover.
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Oh shit. I didn't realize he was THIS bad... 22% from three? 40% from the field as a forward... Dude's a liability on the offensive end. How is his defense?
I thought he was in decline last year, then was proven completely wrong in the playoffs. As bad as he's been so far this year, and as much as I'd love to see the Warriors' dynasty collapse, I'm pretty hesitant to jump to the same conclusion again...
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Erik Spoelstra names JUSTISE WINSLOW as starting point guard in the absence of Dragic.
I must not have been paying attention to the Heat enough. If the coach makes this call, Justise gotta be pretty good in this role.
Makes me wonder if the new "thing" is going to be playmaking forwards/bigs -- a paradigm occupied by Giannis and LeBron at the top tier (LeBron in the GOAT tier), Donkeylips in the "playing on a great team" tier, Luka showing much promise in, and even Nance doing a little bit on the Cavs. Seems like way more guys are doing this now than I can remember.
I must not have been paying attention to the Heat enough. If the coach makes this call, Justise gotta be pretty good in this role.
Makes me wonder if the new "thing" is going to be playmaking forwards/bigs -- a paradigm occupied by Giannis and LeBron at the top tier (LeBron in the GOAT tier), Donkeylips in the "playing on a great team" tier, Luka showing much promise in, and even Nance doing a little bit on the Cavs. Seems like way more guys are doing this now than I can remember.
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It's something coaches have tried in the past to get guys to develop further. Orlando tried it with Oladipo and it's one of the reasons he became the player he did when he got to Indy. He just needed the stop in OKC to get the mentality part from Westbrook.
I was calling for it with Cedi last year when we didn't have really have a PG and Lue didn't want to play Calderon. Looking back now, I think Cedi could have been up for the task and it would have pushed his development.
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Philly is my 2nd favorite team and the jazz are probably my fav out west this year. This game on tnt is pretty good.
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That game winner.
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I did some reading about this in the offseason (was fantasizing about trades and roster construction).
Winslow actually likes to play point guard and last year acted as the guy getting the ball up the court and initiating the offense for a decent few stretch of games.
The results were evidently pretty good if Spo is going back to it again. I think the true point forwards that have elite court vision and passing, (LeBron and Giannis as you say, and on lesser tiers unique guys like Turner or Batum) have been the ones paving the movement, and then you have unicorns like Simmons and Doncic who are straight up point guards.
But distinction should be made in that all those guys above are good at setting up offenses. Guys like Oladipo, Dion and Cedi (for now) are good penetrators and distributors but i think lack that 'floor general' awareness.
Winslow i think is making the transition from simple penetrate-distribute to someone who can strategically set up an offense and the hope is our guys, Sexton and Cedi (maybe Nance) can also develop similalry. Winslow is also unique coz he can be a full time PG too as he doesnt need to be hidden on wings on defense. Most guys above cant keep up with the quick guards and so the team needs to buy into positionless basketball or switching positions on offense/defense. Not with Winslow, he is probably the best guard defender in the league and stilll strong enough to handle the wings too. Super unique player and has become a favorite of mine as he's also just a straight up dog with plenty of hustle and attitude.
Anyway, i agree with your point, the game is moving towards this positionless basketball more and more, and the transition is more apparent now than ever. The Stepien had an awesome article on these guys in the previous draft (Troy Brown Jr, Okogie, Jacob Evans, Kenrich Williams) and in the next year or two when they develop and are given the chance to flourish, the change in the game will even be more rapid.
Highly suggest the Stepien artucle to everyone.
https://www.thestepien.com/2018/05/19/ball-handling-passing-defensive-versatility-wings-2018-draft/
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