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2018 College Football Season/Playoff Thread

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Broken record.

There's two routes to go with and only two.

1.) The model that the FCS, D-II, D-III have used since 1978:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I_Football_Championship

2.) Returning to the pre- CFP, BCS, Bowl Alliance, Bowl Coalition model. In which the highlight of a teams season was as to:
1.) Beat their rival
2.) Win the conference championship.
3.) Win a game on New Year's Day
4.) Somehow impress people in charge of the USA Today, AFCA, AP, FWAA polls that your team should be the one voted as national champion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_football_national_championships_in_NCAA_Division_I_FBS

You can't half ass it. Because when you do? You get one "big game" that matters and the rest are pretty much just "there".

And when that one "big game" sucks? Well it just renders the entire thing moot now, doesn't it?

Frankly it blows I don't get the "joy" of watching a full day of football on New Years Day and to sort of pray that maybe Purdue can play in Pasadena one day due to somehow winning the Big 10 like they do once in a blue moon.
 
I think all last night underscored is that the playoff system's timing disproportionately favors the better coached and more talented team. I've alluded to this before, in terms of seeding but you really have zero chance against Bama, in a CFP semi game, because of how good of a coach Saban is.

The playing field is leveled during the regular season because prep is limited to 5-6 days, save one bye week a year. That allows less talented teams, that maybe have different or more interesting schemes to have a chance against a more talented, generally better coached team. Now, I'm not saying I want the worst team to win, I'm just saying if Nick Saban or Dabo is gonna get 4 weeks to plan and scheme against an opponent, that team has little to no chance IMO.

My only peace on OU is that they were missing their most dynamic WR. Would a healthy Brown have won them the game? Probably not but he's certainly a secondary busting talent and Oklahoma had a lot of trouble consistently stretching Bama's D. They did hit some big plays though, so it's unfortunate we didn't get to see their offense with him healthy.

Also, this isn't the first time teams have been blown out in semi games. I know everyone piles on ND but I think people just have short memories or choose to "forget". It's not even the worst loss I can think of off the top of my head. The long layoff is conducive to games like these, for reasons described above. If they want a true playoff, they should ditch the conference championship games, expand the field and have it start 7-10 days after the regular season.
 
A shrunken version of the FCS model with 8 teams would not only get people to shut the hell up, make some of these bowl venues relevant again and include more teams...but it would also preserve the integrity of regular season matchups.

I’ll trade good out of conference matchups for it, because that seems to be the only downside.
 
James Franklin is a really bad coach. Good recruiter, bad coach.
 
god the "SEC" chant needs to go to hell.

I hope that conference gets shitty soon.

And yeah, I'm really beginning to lean towards returning to the pre-1991 model more and more.

Let me have New Years Day back.

I can have fun following who the Big 8 and Big 10 champions are going to be during the season.

And the SEC can get quarantined back to the Sugar Bowl and we won't have to listen to their idiot honks any more.
 
IDK what can be done about it but it kinda blows that the same programs are always in the conversation and usually it's the one (Bama) that's in a league all by themselves. This is why the playoff committee should NOT be worried about "best teams" and should be focused on best resume/most deserving, for starters. I'd rather give a new team the shot at the title (and see them blown out) than a good game between two teams that won recently and perhaps got in partly due to reputation. And people complain about the games and matchups, but you can't control whether two teams will actually be a fun matchup, so why even discuss that?

But the system is broken because we can't keep doing this Clemson/Bama shit. I'm bored by the playoffs. It's still a smarter system than the BCS (although using the BCS system rather than the committee would be fine), because 4>2, but college football will never be perfect.
 
-Akronite- said:
IDK what can be done about it but it kinda blows that the same programs are always in the conversation and usually it's the one (Bama) that's in a league all by themselves. This is why the playoff committee should NOT be worried about "best teams" and should be focused on best resume/most deserving, for starters. I'd rather give a new team the shot at the title (and see them blown out) than a good game between two teams that won recently and perhaps got in partly due to reputation. And people complain about the games and matchups, but you can't control whether two teams will actually be a fun matchup, so why even discuss that?

But the system is broken because we can't keep doing this Clemson/Bama shit. I'm bored by the playoffs. It's still a smarter system than the BCS (although using the BCS system rather than the committee would be fine), because 4>2, but college football will never be perfect.
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I agree, and also think there should be more transparency in how they pick the teams. I would not mind there being some type of computer part as well as the human part. I think there is a lot of bias with humans, they are looking at the programs, the potential NFL talent, and not necessarily the teams that deserve to be there. I really think a 6 team playoff would be a great first step and would not water down the regular season. 5 conference champs, and one at large. the 1 and 2 seeds get a bye, and 3-6 play the week after the conf champ games. For the conference champ games, the 2 best teams in the conference play each other. This would make winning the conference so important.

Bama/ Clemson Bye weeks

ND (3) vs Wash (6) - Winner Plays Clemson
Okla (4) vs OSU (5) - Winner plays Bama

Another idea if you don't want to add anymore games, is you remove one of the conference game, and make the last week of the season a conference round robin. Where 1vs2, 3vs4, etc, with the higher ranked team getting the home game. While this could lead to overlap games it would still allow teams to play 12 games. Then conference champ week would become first round of a 8 team playoff. 5 conference champs, 2 at large bids, highest ranked non power 5 (no more then 1 loss otherwise no bid).
 
cavsfan1985 said:
I agree, and also think there should be more transparency in how they pick the teams. I would not mind there being some type of computer part as well as the human part. I think there is a lot of bias with humans, they are looking at the programs, the potential NFL talent, and not necessarily the teams that deserve to be there. I really think a 6 team playoff would be a great first step and would not water down the regular season. 5 conference champs, and one at large. the 1 and 2 seeds get a bye, and 3-6 play the week after the conf champ games. For the conference champ games, the 2 best teams in the conference play each other. This would make winning the conference so important.

Bama/ Clemson Bye weeks

ND (3) vs Wash (6) - Winner Plays Clemson
Okla (4) vs OSU (5) - Winner plays Bama

Another idea if you don't want to add anymore games, is you remove one of the conference game, and make the last week of the season a conference round robin. Where 1vs2, 3vs4, etc, with the higher ranked team getting the home game. While this could lead to overlap games it would still allow teams to play 12 games. Then conference champ week would become first round of a 8 team playoff. 5 conference champs, 2 at large bids, highest ranked non power 5 (no more then 1 loss otherwise no bid).
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Eliminating divisions, with or without going to a preferred podding system, is necessary for the future as well. We keep running into too many question marks about whether the best teams are in the conference title game. It'd be nice to establish a way to ensure that teams that win their conference and are deemed the best by earning it on the field rather than some tie-breaker keeping the Bamas/OSUs of the world out only to get into the playoffs with a bye.

There will be endless debate about conference auto-bids, whether with 6 or 8 team playoff, so it will be necessary to make sure the conference championship actually fucking counts.
 
There was some guy going "SEE. THIS IS WHY THE 8 TEAM PLAYOFF WOULD HAVE BEEN POINTLESS! THERE'S ONLY 2 GOOD TEAMS."

I...think...it was Gottlieb?

I don't feel that's always the case though. Alabama is some weird unbeatable juggernaut I don't think people have seen.

Flipside? Years like 2005 I felt like OSU, Notre Dame, Penn State could have very well battled it out for the national title against USC. Quite often that is indeed the case where there's like 5, 6 teams out there each year that could go "We could have been national champions"

we're just stuck in a very weird era.
 
View: https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1081980618966069248


Let me translate this dude who I imagine sounds like Colonel Sanders.

The idiot like this and the idea of the modern system because it benefits the SEC.

Prior to this? they were relegated to playing in the Sugar Bowl and quarantined there while the country paid far more attention to the Eastern Independents (Notre Dame, Penn State, Miami, Pitt, West Virginia), Big 10, Big 8 and Pac 10.

Now? We get stuck with having Alabama jammed down our throat and the shithead SEC chants.

Fuck this shit.
 
Ya'll watching this game?
WTF is wrong with 'Bama.
 
Thought it was going to be a beat down, but the other way.

Good, I'm sick of Alabama. Never in a million years saw this coming.
 
So the SEC’s top two teams got embarrassed in the national championship and beaten as the #5 team in the country by the #15 team in the country to end their seasons.


lmao
 
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