2019 NBA Draft

[kentuckyeddie]

Anybody like Pj Washington. i think he is under rated to be in 2nd round. i know its his sophomore year but he is balling.

 

[Nathan S]

Anybody like Pj Washington. i think he is under rated to be in 2nd round. i know its his sophomore year but he is balling.

I think he's more likely to go in the top-10 at this point than in the second round. I'd be pretty happy to get him with the Rockets' pick and I think most around here would agree with that sentiment.

 

[kentuckyeddie]

I think he's more likely to go in the top-10 at this point than in the second round. I'd be pretty happy to get him with the Rockets' pick and I think most around here would agree with that sentiment.

 

[kentuckyeddie]

I believe so as well. I just seen a couple mock drafts with him rated second round.

 

[Nathan S]

I believe so as well. I just seen a couple mock drafts with him rated second round.

nbadraft.net is the one I know that's still super low on him, but they have a lot of wacky outliers in their mock so I'd take that with a grain of salt. ESPN, SI, Bleacher, and The Athletic all have him in the 17-23 range, and his stock's gotten a big boost since those mocks were published.

 

[Ozone]

if the season ended today the Cavs would have the 20th pick from Houston,a legit defensive specialist seems like a good option. Clarke,Bey,Hoard etc

 

[Nathan S]

Love the clutch instinct by Grant Williams. Wants the ball in his hands down the stretch and he's as good a 1-on-1 scorer as there is at the college level. Makes it easy to believe in his upside.

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

I've never been a proponent of trading down in the NBA draft, but last year all I wanted (After it was apparent that we were going to miss out on the higher lotto guys) was to trade down so we could pick up a later lotto guy plus Mitchell Robinson.

I know Knox has been mostly bad this year, but I really liked what the Knicks did in the draft last year.

I was completely wrong on him. Thought he didn't have the mindset and was a head case; He was just shy and had some anixety issues and got some bad advice.

He is amazing. An absolute menace on D and a ridiculous lob target on O with potential to extend his range.

Check out his advanced stats...ridiculous lol.

 

[I'mWithDan]

nbadraft.net is the one I know that's still super low on him, but they have a lot of wacky outliers in their mock so I'd take that with a grain of salt. ESPN, SI, Bleacher, and The Athletic all have him in the 17-23 range, and his stock's gotten a big boost since those mocks were published.

17-23 seems right to me and he'd me a nice value with the Rockets pick. I'd have trouble taking him much higher than that, when I start seeing the guys projected in the 13-16 range. A lot can change though. If we were a better team and had our stars, I'd like him a lot more but we need to swing for the fences a bit here as this rebuild starts.

I generally love looking at blind prospect comparisons. They can change your perception of how to project a prospect down the road. So here is the positive NBA outcome that most closely resembles Washington (since 2011 possession data) and PJ is a year younger than this guy in prospect age.

I put some space to avoid the spoiler.....think about who this is......












He rates almost exactly like Kuzma....which is actually a nice boost to his profile. A better defending, younger, more physical Kuzma is a pretty nice profile as a prospect. It's also kind of silly to see how someone would consider Kuzma a potential stretch 4 player (NBAdraft.net) but not Washington.

 

[I'mWithDan]

Question for some of you guys......in considering athletic calculation.....one that weighs both height/frame/athleticism in one number......what is your stance:

1. LeBron and Zion are the same.
2. LeBron is rated higher because he is taller and can be expected to play the same role.

Athletically, they seem the same but in a single number system (1-10), with .5 increments, weighing height/frame too......would they both get 10's? Or is LeBron the zenith at positional height + elite athleticism and Zion a 9.5?

 

[Nathan S]

Question for some of you guys......in considering athletic calculation.....one that weighs both height/frame/athleticism in one number......what is your stance:

1. LeBron and Zion are the same.
2. LeBron is rated higher because he is taller and can be expected to play the same role.

Athletically, they seem the same but in a single number system (1-10), with .5 increments, weighing height/frame too......would they both get 10's? Or is LeBron the zenith at positional height + elite athleticism and Zion a 9.5?

Athleticism is always tricky because there's a functional aspect to it, and for Zion that's still developing. For instance, he isn't yet able to utilize his quickness in the halfcourt like LeBron because his ballhandling's not quite up to snuff.

You may say I'm making this more difficult than it needs to be, but I don't think that's true...if you completely ignore skills, then a guy like Ayton is arguably a better athlete than either of them. What makes LeBron special is that he's the rare super-athlete who was actually skilled enough to unlock his full athletic potential on the court. I think there's at least an outside chance that Zion will be able to do that too, and then he'll well and truly be in the conversation with James.

 

[TyGuy]

I was completely wrong on him. Thought he didn't have the mindset and was a head case; He was just shy and had some anixety issues and got some bad advice.

He is amazing. An absolute menace on D and a ridiculous lob target on O with potential to extend his range.

Check out his advanced stats...ridiculous lol.

Teams continually finding very valuable big men in later parts of the first round makes it very difficult for me to consider taking big men early all things being equal. That's what killed me about the Kings taking Bagley. Bagley is likely ending up being a good player and probably better than Giles, but they did the proper thing and took a late flier on Giles and hes absolutely playable. And even if he wasn't they are going to be having mid first round picks and later firsts to get dudes that can play. Now Zion is a different story. He's projecting elite on defense and has a solid chance of being close to elite on offense depending on how much his handles develop.

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

Teams continually finding very valuable big men in later parts of the first round makes it very difficult for me to consider taking big men early all things being equal. That's what killed me about the Kings taking Bagley. Bagley is likely ending up being a good player and probably better than Giles, but they did the proper thing and took a late flier on Giles and hes absolutely playable. And even if he wasn't they are going to be having mid first round picks and later firsts to get dudes that can play. Now Zion is a different story. He's projecting elite on defense and has a solid chance of being close to elite on offense depending on how much his handles develop.

Robinson is an anomaly as he skipped college and was absolute weirdo during the draft process. Limited footage and some persoanlity concerns.

 

[Nathan S]

Speaking of Robinsons, VT's Justin Robinson appeared at #47 on Jackson Hoy's big board update the other day. He's the highest-ranked senior PG on his board, and my draft rater also has him tops among all senior PGs, but he's nonexistent on mainstream big boards as far as I know. Just one more guy I'd be thrilled to see on our summer league squad.

 

[I'mWithDan]

Speaking of Robinsons, VT's Justin Robinson appeared at #47 on Jackson Hoy's big board update the other day. He's the highest-ranked senior PG on his board, and my draft rater also has him tops among all senior PGs, but he's nonexistent on mainstream big boards as far as I know. Just one more guy I'd be thrilled to see on our summer league squad.

I have data from 12 PG's and he rates in the top half of them, even taking a big hit for being really old....

Sorted by NET game score:

It's a small sample size but my calculation generally hates Garland.

Tre Jones is the interesting one.....if he can just be average on offense, he has a chance to outperform his draft slot. His adjusted non scoring effect (GS/100/ADJ) is really high....especially considering strength of schedule.

Pickett, I'm not sure what to make of. Haven't watched him at all and have no clue on his general draft profile. There's just so little out there on him. My age adjustment may be wrong on him because he was so off the radar prior to the year that the database I was looking in didn’t even have a birthday for him.