2023-24 Regular Season Thread

[jjvors]

So, the question that comes up all the time., but I suppose Ballys App is still the best (cheapest) way to watch the Cavs without cable? Any more news on whether they're going under or not?

I pay about $100/year for the nba.com. I get all the Cavs games, plus free games and replays.

 

[guitarguy]

I pay about $100/year for the nba.com. I get all the Cavs games, plus free games and replays.

If only I wasn't local. This would be ideal, not to mention all the other games.

 

[2 For The Brew]

Especially since there was no reason not to run last year. Other than Love, the whole team could run last year and we needed to get guys like Allen, Okoro, & Mobley easy shots in transition

So why did JBB change?

I think Koby lit a fire under JBB and that got him motivated.

I’m not speaking figuratively but literally. Koby literally set JBB’s ass on fire because “Fire is inspirational”:

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

Last year the Cavs averaged 12.6 fast break points per game. The league average was about 13.5. Last night they had 24.

Last year they put up 31.5 three-pointers per game. The league leader shot 43.1. The average was about 32.5. Last night they shot 48.

Did Jerry Tarkanian take over the head coaching job for JBB and the media just hasn't noticed yet?

I'm sure those numbers will come down a bit once the starters are playing 34 minutes more or less, especially after Allen returns. But there's no question this team is going to push the pace a lot more and swing the ball around the perimeter until they get an open look.

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

So why did JBB change?

Fedor says the players were lobbying for a more uptempo pace. It doesn't take a genius to see that guys like Okoro and LeVert, who have limitations operating in a half-court setting, will thrive in a running game. So will Garland, Mitchell, and Strus. If Mobley is playing center he can get from one end of the floor to the other quicker than the opposing center in most cases. He'll be a terrific trailer on fast breaks.

We may have seen the end of walking the ball up and running a high pick-and-roll almost every possession.

 

[AustinCarr]

Based on a totally valid and not-at-all questionable sample size of one preseason game, what do people think?

-Total number of Cavs shooting 5.5+ three per game - (My guess: 2 but another player very close)
-Total number of Cavs shooting 4+ threes per game - (My guess: 5)
-Total number of Cavs shooting 2.5+ threes per game - (My guess: 6 with another player close)
-Total number of Cavs hitting 3+ three per game - (My guess: 2)
-Total number of three-pointers shot per game as a team - - (My guess: 38)

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

It would seem, with what we know, that the answer is that JBB didn’t feel he had the depth of shooters to play that type of ball. Now that he does feel he has the shooters, he is moving to that.

Seems to me that not having shooters would make a team more inclined to run so it isn't as dependent on good shooting in the halfcourt.

 

[foucault87]

Seems to me that not having shooters would make a team more inclined to run so it isn't as dependent on good shooting in the halfcourt.

I wonder if almost the other way. As much as you are running, that means you are giving more time and possessions back to the other team. If you are down on shooting skill compared to the other team, you are losing advantage in the half court and giving the other team more slightly higher percentage chances to score. At least, that is how I would try to explain it. I am of the opinion that unless your team is all old guys, more pace is always better

 

[Bob_The_Cat]

Fedor says the players were lobbying for a more uptempo pace. It doesn't take a genius to see that guys like Okoro and LeVert, who have limitations operating in a half-court setting, will thrive in a running game. So will Garland, Mitchell, and Strus. If Mobley is playing center he can get from one end of the floor to the other quicker than the opposing center in most cases. He'll be a terrific trailer on fast breaks.

We may have seen the end of walking the ball up and running a high pick-and-roll almost every possession.

I'd imagine P&R will just become the secondary action, or it will be used to get the team into the offense. I remember a couple of times last night where Mitchell or Garland drove off a screen, and then the ball went to the corner where it got swung around the perimeter to an open shooter. That's something we didn't see a ton of last year, and it only really works if you have shooters the other team has to close out on.

Either way, I think we'll see Mitchell, Garalnd, and LeVert creating a lot of open looks for guys where they penetrate off a ball swing and find either a wide-open shooter or a player diving to the rim.

 

[Rookie]

How did Victor Wembanyama put on 15 lbs this summer but Mobley only put on 7. I know different genetics is a thing but this seem pretty common. Is it the Cavs trainers? Other players juicing while Mobley isn't? Dafuq going on.

 

[MikeOC33]

How did Victor Wembanyama put on 15 lbs this summer but Mobley only put on 7. I know different genetics is a thing but this seem pretty common. Is it the Cavs trainers? Other players juicing while Mobley isn't? Dafuq going on.

One word - French Cuisine

 

[Kouki]

If only I wasn't local. This would be ideal, not to mention all the other games.

Just find someone with cable if you can, then you can use that info to log into Bally's. I'm using my buddy's parents' cable lol. (In turn I provide Netflix or something)

How did Victor Wembanyama put on 15 lbs this summer but Mobley only put on 7. I know different genetics is a thing but this seem pretty common. Is it the Cavs trainers? Other players juicing while Mobley isn't? Dafuq going on.

Because he's starting even skinnier AND he has an even longer frame to fill out

10 lbs of muscle on someone 5'5 turns them into a bodybuilder. 10 pounds on Wemby is barely noticeable.

 

[Peacedog]

How did Victor Wembanyama put on 15 lbs this summer but Mobley only put on 7. I know different genetics is a thing but this seem pretty common. Is it the Cavs trainers? Other players juicing while Mobley isn't? Dafuq going on.

If Mobley puts on 7 pounds for like 5 years in a row, he's gonna be a BEAST. These things take time....if done naturally.

 

[chuck0609]

How did Victor Wembanyama put on 15 lbs this summer but Mobley only put on 7. I know different genetics is a thing but this seem pretty common. Is it the Cavs trainers? Other players juicing while Mobley isn't? Dafuq going on.

He looked like Karen Carpenter. Still does.

7 more Lbs on Mobley is great. 22 years old.

 

[chuck0609]

Fedor says the players were lobbying for a more uptempo pace. It doesn't take a genius to see that guys like Okoro and LeVert, who have limitations operating in a half-court setting, will thrive in a running game. So will Garland, Mitchell, and Strus. If Mobley is playing center he can get from one end of the floor to the other quicker than the opposing center in most cases. He'll be a terrific trailer on fast breaks.

We may have seen the end of walking the ball up and running a high pick-and-roll almost every possession.

Please don’t lie to me…

It became painfully obvious they need to push the pace. They’re young and athletic. Get easy buckets instead of walking.