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2023-24 Season | Game #11 | Pistons @Cavs | Nov. 17, 2023 | 7:30 p.m.

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jjvors said:
Quick survey: Does anyone care about the in season tournament? I can't make myself care because there doesn't seem to be any benefit to winning it. Am I missing something?
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Just a little bit of cash. Wish it had some impact on the seating or something. For ex: you win and make playoffs you get 6th spot or something.
 
No, no one cares about the in-season tournament at all.

I've talked about this before.

It works in European soccer because there is no Playoffs. The league champion is decided by the season. So then these in season tournaments give you a different flavor with a knockout scenario.


But in America.........WE HAVE PLAYOFFS. THATS THE FUCKING TOURNAMENT!


Also, their tournaments include teams from other leagues or teams from lower divisions. Which also adds a ton of flavor. The big boys playing against some small time teams with the potential of monumental upsets and whatnot.

Again, nothing like that here.

Just dumb. Pointless tbh.

Now, if there was some major tournament that included a bunch of international professional teams playing each other and it ran concurrently with the NBA season then THAT would be pretty sweet.

It would require some major adjustments and whatnot.
 
jjvors said:
Quick survey: Does anyone care about the in season tournament? I can't make myself care because there doesn't seem to be any benefit to winning it. Am I missing something?
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I couldn’t care less about it
 
Yea, I'd rather tune into a pre-season game against Spain or something than care about this in-season tourney way-too-early in the season.
 
Also, continuing the European soccer comparisons, and this is totally just from my very unscientific observations but there seem to be way, way way less MCL/ACL injuries in Euro soccer than in major American sports, particularly the NBA and NFL.


Maybe that's wrong. I don't know. But it definitely feels that way.
 
jjvors said:
Quick survey: Does anyone care about the in season tournament? I can't make myself care because there doesn't seem to be any benefit to winning it. Am I missing something?
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I only care because we won the Vegas league. I want the treble dammit!
 
Rich said:
Also, continuing the European soccer comparisons, and this is totally just from my very unscientific observations but there seem to be way, way way less MCL/ACL injuries in Euro soccer than in major American sports, particularly the NBA and NFL.


Maybe that's wrong. I don't know. But it definitely feels that way.
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American Football is like designed to injure you. I dont think I have seen a game above the HS level where at least one guy didnt go down with some major injury in a long time
 
Otsego Mar said:
Yea, I'd rather tune into a pre-season game against Spain or something than care about this in-season tourney way-too-early in the season.
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Expand the rosters substantially to allow for more games and set up like a Champion's League style tournament between the major professional basketball leagues. NBA, Spain, Italy, Greece. Have play-in round for the best teams from the smaller leagues.

NBA wants to grow the game. Well, that would grow the shit out of it. The LA Lakers heading to Spain to play their best teams in a game that's more than a pre-season scrimmage or a friendly.

LeBron's team losing to Italy's best team in Rome in front of packed stadium in Milan. That would be amazing for the game internationally.
 
The Euro tournaments are put on by different organizations. Manchester City this season for example plays in the Premier League (both a legal entity and the actual league they play in), Champions League (sponsored by UEFA which governs all European soccer), League Cup (sponsored by the Football League) and the FA Cup (sponsored by the Football Association, the governing body for all English football).

None of the games in those four competitions affect any of the others so they are real tournaments.

The NBA Cup counts a game as both regular season and tournament so it's a virtual tournament not a real one (except for the Final).

Maybe it gives casuals a reason to tune in but for core NBA fans I wouldn't think it moves the needle.

The main problem with the format is that in Euro soccer it's double round Robin groups of four with two moving onto knockout rounds (which are home & away except for the Final). In this virtual tournament it's single round groups of five with only the top team moving on (plus 2 of 6 second place teams). So 16/32 vs 8/30. With only four group games one loss can kill you and injuries are incredibly important.

Marketing bullshit with little or no substance.

Plus I'm going to Cavs @ Sixers Tuesday only 14 rows above floor level in the corner by the Cavs bench so that red floor is going to blind me like Romanus Diogenes @Sebastian .
 
I have a feeling we'd care a little more about the tourney if we were healthy or playing good basketball.

The players, who knows? Role players I could see wanting that extra check.
 
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