While I don't believe anyone really thought the Sun's would do anything the way they're constructed, the Clippers were anointed many times and geez, what is seemingly a failed experiment.
Which kind of dawns on me, you hear LeBron talking shop with JJ, and most of his references (for obvious reasons) are about this now old guard... perhaps part of their problem now is he didn't evolve up to the new game and new coaches. Or maybe it's just the tires are too worn. But seems it must be too worn on all these dudes too.