A Thread About Women

[David.]

I don't doubt that for a second. My gf and I made tinders to see who got more matches and she blew me away. I switched to guys and started getting a ton of matches though.

Dude I posted a picture of me (shirtless in perfect condition) and a girl I was seeing and she got 500 up votes. I got negative 3.

I was looking at ways to reduce flakes and came acfoss a thread on tinder. It was just.. Sad. Girl got 3000 matches in a week and every comment was from guys saying they're lucky to get one a week. Guys just.. They all deleted the app.

Paradoxically, the more women use dating apps for the intended purpose (dating and hooking up) the less attractive they become over time to most men.

I've always heard the most attractive a girl will be to a guy I'd before they actually meet and vice versa for girls.

What exactly do you mean here, like the longer they use the app?

 

[MediumBaller]

Dude I posted a picture of me (shirtless in perfect condition) and a girl I was seeing and she got 500 up votes. I got negative 3.

I was looking at ways to reduce flakes and came acfoss a thread on tinder. It was just.. Sad. Girl got 3000 matches in a week and every comment was from guys saying they're lucky to get one a week. Guys just.. They all deleted the app.

I've always heard the most attractive a girl will be to a guy I'd before they actually meet and vice versa for girls.

What exactly do you mean here, like the longer they use the app?

I think it's even worse now that tinder limits the number of likes you can give out in a 12 hour span. Girls are even more selective than before. They have so many options that it's hard to standout

 

[gourimoko]

I've always heard the most attractive a girl will be to a guy I'd before they actually meet and vice versa for girls.

Women are attracted to very different things than men. Women are attracted to personality traits, character traits, and specific attributes about a person, including (and especially) their financial success as well as their sense of humor.

Women will psychologically project an image of their partner and become attracted to that image rather than the real person they're actually dating. The closer the person comes to meeting the projection, the better, and conversely, the reverse is true as well.

What exactly do you mean here, like the longer they use the app?

What I mean is that men are less attracted to promiscuous women; whereas women value men who are sexually experienced. Women do not want a guy who has slept around per se, but would more readily accept one (without much argument); however, many men, perhaps even most, would find a woman who has had many partners (particularly several multiples of their own amount) to be highly unattractive -- not overall, but this would be a negative quality, almost universally.

 

[gourimoko]

I think it's even worse now that tinder limits the number of likes you can give out in a 12 hour span. Girls are even more selective than before. They have so many options that it's hard to standout

It's a terrible way to meet someone to date for a long-term relationship; IMHO. There are much better options including just walking down the street.

 

[David.]

I think it's even worse now that tinder limits the number of likes you can give out in a 12 hour span. Girls are even more selective than before.

Well here's how it works.

Guys indiscriminately swipe right. Even 6s get tens. We'll date down. Girls won't. Then they go for the hottest.

Realistically think of this. If a girl wants to fuck, you are competing with literally every single other guy and they get hundreds of matches a day. A day. So unless you're better than 300 others youre toast.

Ive been talking to this girl who had a conference out here and we matched.. Like she's cute, but nothing like crazy.. She told me she couldn't even match anymore after the first hour because it was full.



Another couple interesting things.. Girls actually legit match if they're attracted.. Like 92%.. Guys swipe right on every single person 80% of the time. Guys are about half as likely to actually message the girl than vice versa. So the numbers of 16 to one are a little misleading

 

[cavman]

It's a terrible way to meet someone to date for a long-term relationship; IMHO. There are much better options including just walking down the street.

That girl I just had a date with I met walking my dog down my street.

 

[David.]

Women are attracted to very different things than men. Women are attracted to personality traits, character traits, and specific attributes about a person, including (and especially) their financial success as well as their sense of humor.

Women will psychologically project an image of their partner and become attracted to that image rather than the real person they're actually dating. The closer the person comes to meeting the projection, the better, and conversely, the reverse is true as well.



What I mean is that men are less attracted to promiscuous women; whereas women value men who are sexually experienced. Women do not want a guy who has slept around per se, but would more readily accept one (without much argument); however, many men, perhaps even most, would find a woman who has had many partners (particularly several multiples of their own amount) to be highly unattractive -- not overall, but this would be a negative quality, almost universally.

I saw another Stat.. Top 10% in looks are entirely passed by the bottom ten if the income disparity is 50k VS 250 k

They don't only value looks but they do, and they value other things too. Across and up in dominance heirarchies. Which is one reason people are getting married less.. Focus on your career means more school. So. They start looking later and the dating pool is already shrunken and if no one makes what you're making, your shit is dried up.


Personality is also obviously important. I'm cleaning the fuck up on cmb right now because it asks a daily question that you respond with a video answer. I'm essentially a girl over there.

 

[CleveRocks]

That's interesting... And what have you learned during your time in this thread, particularly from the feminists here?

So I am curious gour, what a successful discussion on feminism would look like. I think the point of a discussion thread would be to air out points of view, without prejudgement on the correctness of that point of view..

I believe men are being discriminated against in hiring practice, as are older persons, people of color, and women. I have witnessed it often enough..

As for a feminists movement. IMHO, there is a need for equal professional treatment of women, and a need to eliminate bosses pressuring employees for sexual favors.

However I think that organized women's rights groups have created a mythical lifestyle for women that entails being CEO and mother of five and sexxy wife at the same time. I have seen my sister's try to live that life to dissappointment.. Like men, women have to make lifestyle tradeoffs. Which sucks but is just the facts.. you wanna be CEO, your life is travel and 80 hour weeks, your decisions are crisp, your tactics are aggressive and you don't back down. I know women CEO'S and that's how they got there.

I think it should be ok to choose a stay at home gig, if you and your spouse are on the same page. I think it helps the kids and can stabilize the family. That could be the man or the woman.. But whoever's stays back, is making a huge sacrifice, depending on the working spouse to take care of them. So I think it should be financially painful for the working spouses to walk out.

At the same time it should be ok for a women to choose no children without being a bull dyke.. We have really screwed up perceptions of what aspirations are ok and not Ok, and we need to work on that..

I think boss creeps at work should be fired. Period end of story. But I also think the current environment is stressing out guys who work with young women. I think the glamour dolls at work will be shunned at some level for fear of drama. And women who flirt at work, are going to run into blowback in this whole thing, which will harm progression. I think women are used to using flirting to diffuse conflict, and that is not going to be a viable option.

 

[MediumBaller]

It's a terrible way to meet someone to date for a long-term relationship; IMHO. There are much better options including just walking down the street.

It's how I met my current gf lol but I agree. We made up some bs story so we didn't have to tell people we met on tinder.

Well here's how it works.

Guys indiscriminately swipe right. Even 6s get tens. We'll date down. Girls won't. Then they go for the hottest.

Realistically think of this. If a girl wants to fuck, you are competing with literally every single other guy and they get hundreds of matches a day. A day. So unless you're better than 300 others youre toast.

Ive been talking to this girl who had a conference out here and we matched.. Like she's cute, but nothing like crazy.. She told me she couldn't even match anymore after the first hour because it was full.



Another couple interesting things.. Girls actually legit match if they're attracted.. Like 92%.. Guys swipe right on every single person 80% of the time. Guys are about half as likely to actually message the girl than vice versa. So the numbers of 16 to one are a little misleading

Man that's what I would do haha. Swipe right on every girl and then filter out the less attractive ones if I matched with them. Do you use bumble? I'm curious how well that works out with the girl having to message first.

 

[David.]

It's how I met my current gf lol but I agree. We made up some bs story so we didn't have to tell people we met on tinder.

Man that's what I would do haha. Swipe right on every girl and then filter out the less attractive ones if I matched with them. Do you use bumble? I'm curious how well that works out with the girl having to message first.

They don't know what they're doing.

Like texting requires surgical precision. Every single line matters.. Has to make them laugh or control dynamic and be open ended eniugh for them to be able to think of something to say back. Since they're opening the convo it's just not as good. It's like second worse dating app

 

[MediumBaller]

They don't know what they're doing.

Like texting requires surgical precision. Every single line matters.. Has to make them laugh or control dynamic and be open ended eniugh for them to be able to think of something to say back. Since they're opening the convo it's just not as good. It's like second worse dating app

What's the worst one you've used?

 

[David.]

What's the worst one you've used?

Honestly I think algorithms are involved in all of them so the less you focus on one the worse it gets but okcupid is horseshit. I think I've gotten two dates from it. Not the most attractive group either. But my sister met her husband there so whatever

 

[Otsego Mar]

That girl I just had a date with I met walking my dog down my street.

They don't know what they're doing.

Like texting requires surgical precision. Every single line matters.. Has to make them laugh or control dynamic and be open ended eniugh for them to be able to think of something to say back. Since they're opening the convo it's just not as good. It's like second worse dating app

You make too much sense. It's a shame.... women are great but so stupidly complicated.

Are we in the tinder thread? See, this is actually what I intended this thread to be about.

 

[Otsego Mar]

You make too much sense. It's a shame.... women are great but so stupidly complicated.

Are we in the tinder thread? See, this is actually what I intended this thread to be about.

PS the best set of tits I've seen were my mother's.

Now, I've seen a lot of nice asses.....

 

[Otsego Mar]

Honestly I think algorithms are involved in all of them so the less you focus on one the worse it gets but okcupid is horseshit. I think I've gotten two dates from it. Not the most attractive group either. But my sister met her husband there so whatever

David, why do mostly fat plain Jane's like me on dating apps? I'm an attractive guy.