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Cavs vs Nets Game 33

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Game #33

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Cleveland Cavaliers [20-12] AT New Jersey Nets [14-18]

Saturday Jamuary 6th, 2007
7:30 PM ET
Radio = WTAM 1100
Television = FSN Ohio; ESPN
Quicken Loans Arena



Head Coaches

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Mike Brown | Lawrence Frank
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Point Guards
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Eric Snow | Jason Kidd

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Shooting Guards

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Larry Hughes | Vince Carter

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Small Forwards

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LeBron James | Richard Jefferson

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Power Forwards
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LeBron James | Jason Collins

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Centers
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Zydrunas Ilgauskas | Mikki Moore

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Benches

Key Cavalier Bench Players

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F Donyell Marshallhttp://www.nba.com/playerfile/donyell_marshall/index.html |
G Damon Jones | G Dan Gibson | F/C Anderson Varejao


Key New Jersey Bench Players

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G Marcus Williamshttp://www.nba.com/playerfile/marcus_williams/index.html |
G/F Bostjan Nachbar | F Antoine Wright | F/C Mikki Moore

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OOOK Some Quick Notes on the game


as well documented the Nets are without Kristic which should be a huge benefit to us...Our FrontCourt of LeBron, Drew, Z, Andy and Donyell should absolutely destroy thiers by a large margin....

We are usually a great rebounding team and tonight sould be no different....we need to out rebound them and especially on the offensive glass put backs for Z and Drew will be there all night

Speaking of Drew he had a monster game last night...can he do it 2 nights in a row against a very weak Nets frontcourt???

LeBron needs to snap out of his 1 game funk and go inside all nigth because no one should be able to stop him from getting there

VC always kills us at the Q and JKidd is playing great ball this year....try to play focused defense and help out and DO NOT let a role player kill us all night....

Cavs have been playing great and we need this win to vaildate the recent streak we have been on...a win tonight could vault us into a big important road trip the next 2 weeks


Basically play smart use our bigs and go inside and attakc the bucket and we will win minus VC droppin 81


******BTW**** Cavs are 3 and 0 with the old leather ball back.....You all laughed at me when I said we would play better when it came back but I believe I was right and you should all bow down to my intelligence



Prediction

Cavs---98
Nets---87
 
sorry this is late.....CDT missed his and I am quickly trying to edit it up for tonights game as I ripped this off of Chicago Cavs fan
 
George I am working on my Game Preview to pick up the slack... It'll be up withing 20 minutes...
 
thanks for the help Smooth....my preview was kinda rushed so I am sure everyone will want to see your analysis as well
 
Game #32

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Cleveland Cavaliers [20-12] VS. New Jersey Nets [14-18]

Saturday, January 6th , 2007
7:30 PM ET
Radio = WTAM 1100
Television = FSN Ohio [HDTV]
“The Q” The Quicken Loans Arena [Cleveland, Ohio]



Head Coaches

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Mike Brown | Lawrence Frank


Starting Backcourt

Point Guards​



ESPN's Eric Snow Scouting Report

Snow is a very poor outside shooter -- he made one 3-pointer all year -- but in his prime he could make up for that with his ability to slash to the basket and finish. Unfortunately for the Cavs his prime was several years ago, and he no longer has the extra gear to get to the rim. Opponents leave him unguarded and dare him to shoot 15-footers; occasionally he takes them up on it.

Snow is a quality defensive player, and that ability would make an OK second stringer. He has the size, strength and quickness to handle players at either guard spot, although he's better defending the point, and he's a good help defender. The Cavs defended much better with Snow on the court last year, although that might be in part because the alternatives were so bad -- opposing point guards had a solid PER against him.

Season vs. Nets = 4 PTS | 6 AST | 4 REB | 1 STL | 20 FG% | 100 FT%


ESPN's Jason Kidd Scouting Report​
Kidd's jets may not be quite what they were, but he's still very fast with the ball in transition and sees the floor on the move as well as anyone in basketball. He excels at throwing alley-oops and full-court bounce passes, and seems to have an especially good rapport with Jefferson.

Kidd isn't nearly as potent in the halfcourt. He's a weak outside shooter so opponents tend to lay off him, although he can be an effective 3-point shooter when his feet are set. He's also not nearly as elusive off the dribble as he is in transition. At 6-4, Kidd can shoot over most opponents so he's a good option at the end of the shot clock, especially when Vince Carter is off the floor. He'll occasionally back down smaller guards in the post, where defenders are reluctant to double him since he's such a good passer.

Kidd's first-team All-Defense selection was overly generous, but there's no question he's a top-notch defender. He's been first or second-team All-Defense for eight consecutive years, and one reason he was selected last season was because of how frequently he defended high-scoring shooting guards so that Vince Carter wouldn't have to. Kidd is very good at chasing players through screens, and with his size he can match up at off guard. However, small quick guards can give him problems with dribble penetration.

Season vs. Cavs = 9 PTS | 10 AST | 8 REB | 3 STL | 1 BLK | 44 FG% | 50 FT%


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Shooting Guards​


ESPN's Larry Hughes Scouting Report
Hughes has tremendous quickness for his size and is always a threat to score off the dribble or in transition. He's a strong finisher with a knack for drawing fouls, with the free-throw line often being his primary scoring vehicle. Hughes is a weak outside shooter who shoots 28.1 percent for his career on 3-pointers, and has a big problem with shot selection. When he's going badly he'll tend to force mid-range jumpers off the dribble, a shot he doesn't shoot particularly well. He's a good dribbler who can play point guard in a pinch, but all his drives tend to produce a high turnover rate.

Hughes' high steals total from two years ago looks like a massive fluke -- it's nearly twice what he's done in any other recent season -- but he's quick in the passing lanes and has good anticipation. He likes to gamble though, and his lack of strength makes him vulnerable to bigger shooting guards who can take him in the blocks. Hughes' focus tends to be on steals rather than stops, so his help defense isn't always up to snuff either. However, his quickness makes him a hardy defender against dribble penetration.

Hughes' injuries have become an increasing worry. He's missed 88 games in the past three seasons and hasn't played a full schedule since 1999-2000. At this point, it seems prudent to assume he'll only be around for 60 games or so.

Season vs. Nets = 19 PTS | 3 AST | 5 REB | 1 STL | 42 FG% | 50 3PT%

ESPN's Vince Carter Scouting Report​
Carter is an explosive athlete who is one of the best dunkers of all time, but what really makes him dangerous is that he can shoot. Carter is a career 38.1 percent 3-point shooter, and has the leaping ability to get his shot off against anyone. The drawback to this ability is that he sometimes settles for too many jumpers instead of using his quickness and strength to attack the basket and score. As a Net he's avoided that tendency, but many still question his toughness and fear he'll regress.

Carter had a strong season at the defensive end, playing much harder than he had in Toronto. His quickness is more the explosive kind than the short-step, side-to-side variety so he's never going to be a stopper, and he tends to fall asleep on the weak side. However, his size and leaping ability make him an obstacle for opponents to shoot over and he's strong enough to switch onto bigger players. Fortunately for Carter, he has Kidd and Richard Jefferson around so he rarely has to defend a good scorer.

Season vs. Cavs = 38 PTS | 5 AST | 6 REB | 55 FG% | 80 3PT% | 77 FT%

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Starting Frontcourt

Small Forwards​


ESPN's LeBron James Scouting Report
James is a breathtaking talent who has as much straight-line speed as any player in the game despite being built like a power forward. He understands the game phenomenally well for a player his age and can be a spectacular passer, which combined with his ballhandling skill makes him capable of playing point guard -- where he creates monstrous match-up problems because of the size differential.

The scary thing is that he's about the best player in the league, and yet you get the sense he could be a lot better. For instance, James is still developing as a jump shooter. He has a nice stroke with a high arc and can comfortably fire away even with a hand in his face, but his accuracy remains middling. He started developing more of a post game last season and he should continue working on it to take better advantage of his size.

Another quibble with his offensive game is how he runs the pick-and-roll, because he tends to bring the offense grinding to a halt. Detroit exploited this beautifully in the playoffs -- when a big man shows hard on the screen, LeBron's instinct is to retreat almost to half court and then just go one-on-one with whomever is left guarding him. That breaks down any other movement going on with the play and makes the Cavs easy to defend. James is good enough that he still can score occasionally when he does this, but he needs to either split the trap on this play or get rid of the ball sooner.

James also needs more work on the defensive end. He's a decent on-ball defender, though a bit overaggressive, and nobody even bothers trying to post him up because of his size. But he has to get better from the weak side. James will play passing lanes and go for steals, but the basic help-and-recover moves are still developing.

Season vs. Nets = 37 PTS | 1 AST | 8 REB | 2 STL | 1 BLK | 45 FG% | 33 3PT% | 76 FT%

ESPN's Richard Jefferson Scouting Report​
Jefferson is one of the game's most athletic wingmen, with great quickness going to his right off the dribble that earns him numerous opportunities from the free-throw line. He's mostly a right-wing player who is especially fond of driving the right baseline, but in recent years has become more adept at getting his man to back up and then shooting a midrange jumper. Jefferson is a poor 3-point shooter (32.1 percent), but his ability to hit free throws augments his best skill -- he's outstanding at running the floor, almost always down the right side, and benefits hugely from Jason Kidd's ability to find him in transition.

Jefferson had to be the Nets' perimeter stopper last season and that worked as long as he defended bigger forwards. He has good size and can contest shots, but his lateral movement isn't as good as his straight-line speed so quicker players can give him trouble. Overall the Nets defended better with him on the court, and he held his men to a 13.5 PER.

Season vs. Cavs = 14 PTS | 3 AST | 5 REB | 57 FG% | 100 FT%

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Power Forwards​



ESPN's Drew Gooden Scouting Report

Gooden makes for a good role player because he can score without having plays run for him. He's a quick leaper who can finish around the basket, and he has a decent mid-range jump shot despite his somewhat awkward form. He's not as adept in the post because he lacks strength and can get bodied out of the lane, but he does have a nice jump-hook move.

Defensively, Gooden's quickness makes him very good at picking up guards on switches, and he has long arms that earn him lots of deflections. He doesn't have the power to deal with some of the league's bigger power forwards, but he partly makes up for it by helping on the defensive glass. Despite his leaping ability and quickness, he's not a shot-blocker.

The biggest criticism of Gooden has been his lack of focus. Whether it's losing track of his man at the defensive end or not knowing a play on offense, Gooden has baffled coaches with his mental miscues, and that's one reason he hasn't played as many minutes as you might expect for a player with such a high PER.

Season vs. Nets = 10 PTS | 9 REB | 1 STL | 44 FG% | 100 FT%

ESPN's Bostjan Nachbar Scouting Report​
Nachbar was drafted with a reputation as a shooter but has yet to hit 40 percent from the field in four NBA seasons. He's better from long range, with a 35 percent career mark on 3-pointers, but completely lost the touch last season. He also runs the floor fairly well and can get the occasional transition basket, but he has no ability to score off the dribble or in the post.

Nachbar's length should theoretically make him a good defensive player, but his footwork is average at best and he has zero strength. That lack of strength also accounts for his shoddy work on the boards. His subpar athleticism doesn't help any.

Season vs. Cavs = 7 PTS | 1 REB | 1 STL | 60 FG% | 33 3PT%

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Centers​



ESPN's Zydrunas Ilgauskas Scouting Report

Ilgauskas is one of the best post players in basketball. Though 7-3, he's fairly mobile and has range out to 17 feet. He likes to set up camp on the left block and shoot a turnaround going to either side, although of late he's added a sweeping hook shot where he dribbles right and never puts his left hand back on the ball as he goes up.

Ilgauskas is a good shot-blocker and his size makes him difficult to score against in the blocks, but he has trouble farther away from the basket. Teams try to involve him in screen-and-roll plays and take advantage of his poor lateral movement. He gives a good effort, though, and overall the Cavs defended better with him on the court last season. He's also not a good defensive rebounder -- an unusually big chunk of his boards come at the offensive end.

If I could choose one player to be on my team for a five-minute overtime, Ilgauskas might be the guy. Not because he's a great clutch player, but because he's perhaps the best jump-ball taker in the game. His height helps, but his real genius is in the art of stealing the tap without being so blatant about it that the ref calls a violation. They must teach this in Lithuania or something -- Arvydas Sabonis was great at it too.

Season vs. Nets = 18 PTS | 11 REB | 4 AST | 1 STL | 50 FG% | 100 FT%

ESPN's Mikki Moore Scouting Report

A rail-thin 7-footer, Moore is a fairly effective defender in zone defenses because he's long and reasonably athletic. In fact, the Sonics used him at small forward on occasion, as did the Clippers a season earlier. Moore is a decent jump shooter from the foul line area and normally plays in the high post, as his 220-pound frame can't absorb the pounding inside. His lack of muscle also makes him a poor post defender -- he's much better helping from the weak side where he can use his length to alter shots.

Season vs. Cavs = 2 PTS | 1 AST | 5 REB | 1 BLK | 100 FT%

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Key Cavalier Injuries


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Key New Jersey Bench Players

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F Clifford Robinson | G Marcus Williams
F/C Josh Boone | G Eddie House

Rest Of The Bench

- G Hassan Adams
- G Antoine Wright
- C/F Mile Ilic
- F/G Bernard Robinson


Key Net Injuries


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C/F | Nenad Krstic
Nenad Krstic will miss the rest of the season because of a torn knee ligament.

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C/F | Jason Collins
Collins (back) will probably stay home to spend more time with the physical therapist as the Nets travel to Cleveland for a Saturday night game against the Cavs, the Newark Star-Ledger reports. (Jan 6)


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Smooth32's 3 Keys To Get The "V"

1). Get it to the big man – Both Nenad Kristic and Jason Collins will be out for tonight’s game. That is a big blow to the Nets on the defensive end, on the interior. Ilgauskas will be matched up with Moore whom he should have no problem with and Gooden should own Nachbar. The key should be get it inside and make them send you to the line.

2). Get the guards in foul trouble – If we can get any of the big 3 in foul trouble, the better. Getting one of their main playmakers/scorers in foul trouble will make it even harder for them to put up a good fight. We should take the ball to the hole and make them foul us.

3). Transition Defense – With the Nets going small, I’d imagine that they are going to want to push the ball instead of playing a more half-court oriented game. They don’t have that good of post scorers to begin with, so I think the run-and-gun game will be more attractive. We need to get back on defense and not allow any baskets. If we can do that, we can win this game. Kidd, Carter and Jefferson are all dangerous in transition, we need to limit their opportunities to get out and run the break.

Prediction​


Cavs - 99
Celtics - 87


GOCAVS !!


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Note - The scouting reports are from ESPN. So credit should be given there.
 
This team is clicking at the right time of the year... If we can have winning record during the road swing, that would be huge for our confidence...

Overall though, we are playing like a whole different team... It just seems like everything is flowing well...
 
Great win.. Whats up with only 5 reply's? Everyone out drinking besides watching the game!
 
Interesting that James was also relatively low scoring in this game but came up huge on the boards, and we won... Drew also still playing way beyond expectations.
 
Sorry i didnt post during the game....I am actually at the hospital with my Grandad



thak god we won....played like shit for ahwhile there but hey it was our 4th game in 5 nights

now if we can go 3 and 3 or 4 and 2 on the road trip I will be really happy
 
Cavs are playing pretty well and it's been great to see other players making major contributions and the Cavs not having to rely on LeBron as much.

Hopefully they can continue this play on the west coast trip but I wonder if fatigue will become a problem.

It's tough to complain about anything right now but I am a little concerned about the heavy minutes some players are playing, mainly LeBron and Larry. It's a little early in the season to cut back to a playoff level rotation an be playing guys playoff level minutes. Cavs are winning but I don't want to sacrifice the long term for a couple of possible midseason wins.

Cavs need to pickup a veteran player who can provide good minutes off the bench and who M. Brown will trust. Morris Peterson would be a great fit for example.
 
Everybody on WTAM is all excited because for a couple of games, Snow didn't do too much to hurt the team... Although he did take a really bad jumper late in the fourth that he had no business taking. He was 2 for 7 tonight... and I don't like games where he takes more than 5 shots. Eric, knock that crap off.

Our next game is against Sacramento, where Gooden will play against Kenny Thomas. I wonder if he can manage a three-peat... but the chances aren't good (no pun intended, heh). Gooden being able to focus 3 games in a row? Not likely. I would love to see it, though.

How about Z with a couple dunks in the game? Wow. Is he feeling good or what? Keep on with the force, big fella, don't stop til you get enough.

Blew another big lead. This is Mike Brown's fault, and I'm not an anti-Mike Brown guy. When teams make adjustments and start fighting back, it's up to Mike to make the necessary counter-adjustments. He's doing that, I think, but he's too slow with it.

Last thing: LeBron doesn't make it to the foul line tonight... what? My guess is that this was just an anomaly... cuz we're going to need him at the line during this upcoming trip.

Decent win.
 
Blazie said:
How about Z with a couple dunks in the game? Wow. Is he feeling good or what? Keep on with the force, big fella, don't stop til you get enough.

I noticed that with Z yesterday and tonight. He's had a couple of nice two-handed dunks instead of putting up those weak layups. The big guy looks rejuvenated and I'm happy to see it.
 
Big Z has been playing at a very high level for a while now

if we can get Drew to tuen on the clock and get consistant....whew you better watch out


LeBron needs to snap out of the mini funk he is in because we are gonna need his 30 points a night on the west coast trip....playing Artest wednesday isnt gonna help him get out of it either as Artest aways does a good job on him
 
Maybe it's best if he takes his time. The guys are playing very well as a team right now, and it'd be a shame to see them revert to standing around relying on LeBron to make everything happen. Even when 'Bron isn't scoring he's still having a major impact on the game.

They were working on his legs during the game tonite. Something is bugging him and tightening up and throwing his game off and inspite of it he still snags 13 boards, makes 3 blocks, and snags 3 steals.
 

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