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Arctic temperatures surge in the dead of winter

Winter is still in full swing in the North Pole, but temperatures this week have been downright summerlike in the Arctic.

Although it is shrouded in the darkness of a 24-hour polar night, temperatures in the Arctic have soared well above freezing this week, marking the hottest temperatures recorded in the region during winter, according to scientists from the Danish Meteorological Institute.
Calculations from Cape Morris Jessup, the world's northernmost land-based weather station, show that temperatures from February in eastern Greenland and the central Arctic are averaging about 15°C (27°F) warmer than seasonal norms.

https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/a...092003-desktop-arctic-temperature-weather.mp4

And although the Arctic has seen temperatures climbing for decades, the past few years have seen the most extreme changes, according to Martin Stendel, a climate scientist at DMI. For the past 20 years, temperatures above freezing in February have only been recorded three times -- first in 2011, then in 2017 and now.


"For years, absolute values of temperatures have become higher and higher, but if you look a couple years back it's not so interesting whether the temperatures were minus 10 degrees C or minus 5 degrees C because the temperature was still well below zero," Stendel said.

But this month's unusual rises are interesting -- and unprecedented -- and have continued for a record nine days in a row.
Zack Labe, a climate scientist at the University of California at Irvine, tweeted a chart demonstrating how dramatically different this February's temperature is.

View: https://twitter.com/ZLabe/status/967838618252320768


So what's causing the Arctic's "heat wave"?
It's a combination of warm weather patterns coming into contact with retreating sea ice and rising and warmer sea levels, said Robert Graham, climate scientist at the Norwegian Polar Institute.
Although powerful storms have brought warm winds to the Arctic in the past, a fortress of sea ice would typically cool them down as they traveled north. But the Arctic's shrinking sea ice has moved those barriers farther north, where southerly winds have been able to travel for longer stretches without being cooled. And as ocean levels and temperatures continue to rise, those warm southern winds are finding comfortable refuge across the Arctic Sea as they make their way toward the North Pole.
In the past, it was not unusual for the Arctic to see days where temperatures would peak above minus 10 C (14 F), but what we are seeing now is different. Those peaks are becoming more frequent and long-lasting.
More worryingly, the warming weather pattern is producing a circular affect.

A vicious cycle
The warmer the air and water, the less sea ice there is. And the less sea ice there is, the warmer the air and water can get (and stay warm). This, in turn, leads to less sea ice -- and the vicious cycle continues.
For example, in Alaska, residents of the island village of Diomede are baffled at the open ocean water this February. There, residents are seeing the scientific findings in the Arctic play out in their own backyards. February should be the height of the sea ice season -- but instead, crashing waves are changing their town's coastline. The US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's head of Arctic research, Jeremy Mathis, told CNN that in many years of Arctic research, 2017 marked the first time that he and his group of researchers spotted no ice in the seas off Alaska.
"This year in 2017 during a 25-day cruise in the Arctic, we didn't see a single piece of ice," Mathis said. "We were sailing around on a Coast Guard icebreaker in blue water that could have been anywhere in the world. And it certainly didn't look like the Arctic."

Arctic sea-ice masses have been shrinking in size over the January and February months since 1980. Data from January and February 2018 has so far demonstrated the most dramatic losses in size, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center. Last year had been the worst year for greatest loss in volume of sea ice until now.
Like the rising temperatures, sea-ice masses are also setting new records -- but not the good kind.
"It seems like every winter we get a new record minimum at the moment," Graham says.
He holds onto the hope that public concern over the Arctic's rising temperatures will help shine a light on the issue he is most concerned about: shrinking sea ice.
"These simple events can seem quite shocking at the time but it's what they do to bring attention to the large-scale sea ice that's important."

'Cold continents, warm Arctic'
While the Arctic warms up, most of Europe has been hit with a cold snap that has extended into this week. The cold weather, dubbed "the beast from the East," is the result of cold winds from Siberia sweeping across many parts of Europe.
Jason Box, an American scientist and professor of glaciology at the Geological Survey of Denmark and Greenland, said that cold air from the Arctic has been pushed away from its normal hovering position.
It's now found itself invading more temperate locations like Rome, where locals woke up on Monday to find their city covered in snow for the first time in more than five years.

"A new pattern that we think is part of climate change is where the normal so-called polar vortex that keeps the cold air bottled over the Arctic ocean, that cold air is spilling out... now that's being displaced."
"The pattern that we have seen over the last 10 years is that the Arctic Ocean has been warmer than normal, and Northern Eurasia is colder; we call it 'cold continents warm Arctic.'"
Box's theory remains a hot topic in scientific circles, with researchers from both Arctic and climate-change research institutes continuing to debate and research the physics behind the argument.
But one thing is clear: What happens in the Arctic doesn't stay in the Arctic. It is Earth's air conditioner, helping to regulate temperature and weather patterns in the middle latitudes. When that balance is compromised, only one thing is certain -- strange weather.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/27/weather/arctic-temperatures-record-high-intl/index.html

KI, it might be worthwhile to re-post this as a new thread in the RCF Politics sub-forum ....

Also I see you there @Brandname.. ;) if you haven't already requested an invite yet, you should post in the invite thread.
 
KI, it might be worthwhile to re-post this as a new thread in the RCF Politics sub-forum ....

Also I see you there @Brandname.. ;) if you haven't already requested an invite yet, you should post in the invite thread.
I'm here! I did request an invite to the politics forum, but (possibly because I said I don't contribute much), I don't have posting privileges.

If there are limited number of invites with posting privileges, I shouldn't take up one of those, even though this particular topic is interesting to me.
 
I'm here! I did request an invite to the politics forum, but (possibly because I said I don't contribute much), I don't have posting privileges.

Privileges haven't been handed out yet; everything should be happening by end of this week.

If there are limited number of invites with posting privileges, I shouldn't take up one of those, even though this particular topic is interesting to me.

Not limited in number and everyone is welcome... You'll get privileges likely Thursday or Friday.
 
John Christy and Roy Spencer keep hoping that their satellite data disproves global warming but they keep getting it wrong. The satellite data needs a A LOT of calibration: they do not measure temperature directly and to make comparisons you have to try to measure the same point of day and make adjustments based on the angle of the earth, the type of satellite used, and the orbit of the satellite to name just a few.

Over the years Christy and Spencer initially claimed their data showed cooling but as other scientists keep looking at their datasets they've constantly had to make changes:

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Each change to their dataset has shown more warming! http://www.skepticalscience.com/news.php?n=3259
Now the latest paper looking at their dataset again shows they have again drastically underestimated global warming: http://www.theguardian.com/environm...te-data-set-is-underestimating-global-warming


Finally the idea that temp stations are flawed or put in bad places has long been a trope of global warming deniers. The Berkeley Earth Science Institute was founded by global warming skeptics who bought into this idea. And guess what? After spending a lot of money and years re-analyzing and looking at this they completely came around and stated the Earth was warming at the rate where the consensus estimates were!

"From 2010-2012, Berkeley Earth systematically addressed the five major concerns that global warming skeptics had identified, and did so in a systematic and objective manner. The first four were potential biases from data selection, data adjustment, poor station quality, and the urban heat island effect. Our analysis showed that these issues did not unduly bias the record."
http://berkeleyearth.org/about/

It's interesting: for some reason I just decided to read back over this thread and came across this post, and it immediately reminded me of the Millikan oil drop experiment. Some of the other physicists here (@gourimoko, @Nathan S, and I'm sure others) will hopefully get my meaning. It's an imperfect analogy, since these are results produced by the same people, as opposed to several different people, but I believe the principle is the same.

Bias is very, very difficult to get rid of in science. Usually it's done so reluctantly -- because we all have the fear of being wrong. It's why peer review, although imperfect itself, is so important. In the case of Spencer and Christy, biases have to be rooted out and understood by the community of their peers, which is why you see the gradual rise in warming trend shown from their data. It doesn't necessarily have to be nefarious -- even in a completely honest approach, it's just difficult to select, evaluate, and interpret data while removing all systematic biases.

As with the oil drop experiment, sometimes it takes time to reach the right answer, but you can see the trend here. We're always fighting against confirmation bias.

Not every instance of climate-science "skepticism" is innocent. In fact, a LOT of it is deliberately misleading. I just thought it was interesting that at some point, these guys can't argue against the serious issues other scientists have found in their papers, so their conclusions keep showing more and more warming.
 

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